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I've had it with the 2400 and its excessive demands for new ink cartridges. The latest is that it won't let me print anything (even B&W) because one of the colour cartridges is low. This might just be time for me to convert it to continuous inking. I have looked at the system from inkrepublic.com and have heard good things about them on APUG and here, but I only really need B&W from this printer. Any other suggestions for a B&W continuous ink system for the 2400 - there were many for the 2200, so there must be options out there!

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I've had it with the 2400 and its excessive demands for new ink cartridges. The latest is that it won't let me print anything (even B&W) because one of the colour cartridges is low. This might just be time for me to convert it to continuous inking. I have looked at the system from inkrepublic.com and have heard good things about them on APUG and here, but I only really need B&W from this printer. Any other suggestions for a B&W continuous ink system for the 2400 - there were many for the 2200, so there must be options out there!

Chris
or consider refillable cartridges using a dedicated monochrome ink set
 

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I've had it with the 2400 and its excessive demands for new ink cartridges.

Amen!

I love my R2400 for print results, but hate it for the ridiculous small much to expensive ink cartridges, waste of ink by flushing all lines when changing just a single cartridge, and the stupid need to change Matte and Photo black.

You may have a look here. I must admit I still haven't decided myself and bought something. Let us know what your experiences are when you buy and install a CIS!

http://www.specialistinks.com/
https://www.continuousink.com/home.html
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http://www.inkjetfly.com/ and some tips:http://www99.epinions.com/review/Inkjetfly_Bigfoot_Continuous_Ink_System_epi/content_430182928004
http://www.piezography.com/PiezoPress/
http://www.conecolor.com/

Marco
 
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So far with the Piezography K7 inks and the refillable cartridges (cheaper than CIS) things are looking hopeful. One thing I have learnt very quickly is that when they say the inks are for particular papers, they really mean it! I'm awaiting the arrival of some Hahnemuhle Photo Rag before going any further.

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So far with the Piezography K7 inks and the refillable cartridges (cheaper than CIS) things are looking hopeful. One thing I have learnt very quickly is that when they say the inks are for particular papers, they really mean it!

Good to hear your first experiences are fine, but could you elaborate a bit more on what you mean with "when they say the inks are for particular papers, they really mean it!"?

I wasn't aware of any limitations mentioned for the Piezography inks, and what exactly were your issues?
 
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Sure. I tried some of my favourite Epson Premium Photo Luster and got so much ink on the paper it ran off the edges at first. I reduced the ink flow in the QTR pane of the print dialog and made it safe to print, but there was still metamerism in the black areas. I could see there was a need for a somewhat absorbent paper, so I tried some Innova watercolor paper next, but this came out grey and fuzzy, as if it was too absorbent. To be fair, they do say that to use a lustre paper the Gloss Optimiser must be included, and I don't have this.

The Inkjet Mall site says:
"Piezography Neutral K7 inks are seven dilutions of pure carbon pigments which create Lab neutral to the human eye when viewed under 5000k and printed on Hanhemuhle PhotoRag or Innova Photo Cotton Smooth. These papers have a white on which this achromatic effect is achieved. Choose a warmer paper or a cooler paper, and the Neutral inks will warm or cool. A wide range of color tone is possible in this manner. The end result is a perfect marriage of ink and paper. A perfect monotone is produced. Inks are designed to fade less than 5% and shift less than deltaE 2, both below average human perception. These are the longest lasting inks available. There is a zero metamerism effect. The pigment particles are ground using a proprietary nano-technology. The fluid base in conjunction with the pigment produces a very non-clogging formula."

I'm hopeful the Hahnemuhle Photo Rag will get it right. If not, I shall have to ask for advice.

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Chris, don't use glossy or semi-glossy papers with Piezography inks; to my knowing they're designed for matte papers and work very well for these. I was using the original piezography inkset (selenium tone version) years ago and was very happy with what I was getting... I really don't know if they've changed the ink formulation considerably, but really, this kind of inks are for matte papers...
 

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Sure. I tried some of my favourite Epson Premium Photo Luster and got so much ink on the paper it ran off the edges at first. I reduced the ink flow in the QTR pane of the print dialog and made it safe to print, but there was still metamerism in the black areas. I could see there was a need for a somewhat absorbent paper, so I tried some Innova watercolor paper next, but this came out grey and fuzzy, as if it was too absorbent. To be fair, they do say that to use a lustre paper the Gloss Optimiser must be included, and I don't have this.

The Inkjet Mall site says:
"Piezography Neutral K7 inks are seven dilutions of pure carbon pigments which create Lab neutral to the human eye when viewed under 5000k and printed on Hanhemuhle PhotoRag or Innova Photo Cotton Smooth. These papers have a white on which this achromatic effect is achieved. Choose a warmer paper or a cooler paper, and the Neutral inks will warm or cool. A wide range of color tone is possible in this manner. The end result is a perfect marriage of ink and paper. A perfect monotone is produced. Inks are designed to fade less than 5% and shift less than deltaE 2, both below average human perception. These are the longest lasting inks available. There is a zero metamerism effect. The pigment particles are ground using a proprietary nano-technology. The fluid base in conjunction with the pigment produces a very non-clogging formula."

I'm hopeful the Hahnemuhle Photo Rag will get it right. If not, I shall have to ask for advice.

Chris
HPR is a 100% cotton matte paper and take a larger ink load by comparison. The results are stunning, IMO - if you like matte paper.

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Chris, don't use glossy or semi-glossy papers with Piezography inks; to my knowing they're designed for matte papers and work very well for these. I was using the original piezography inkset (selenium tone version) years ago and was very happy with what I was getting... I really don't know if they've changed the ink formulation considerably, but really, this kind of inks are for matte papers...

There are versions of Piezo for glossy papers though I can't recall the details. Check the IJM website.

Don
 

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Re HPR: To me, the biggest rival of that paper is itself again... It has several variants, Ultra smooth / Bright White along with the classic paper... It was the best photo paper I have ever used. (Well, the most I liked would be more correct.) Now, I wish some crazy ..'s don't sell it for USD 10 per A3+ sheet!!! Totally insane price, especially taking into account that here in Turkey, we're much closer to Germany than you all are!!! Grrr...
 
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