Ensign Ful-Vue: The British Brownie?

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I wrote something about this camera on my blog recently, as it's one I regularly see in camera fairs and junk shops here in the UK.

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I've seen these cameras around a lot but don't know anyone who's shot on one; I do remember an issue of Amateur Photographer in the early 2000s where they took one to Paris, and some of the shots were lovely.

Anyone ever use one?

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Stephen
 

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I've shot with one Stephen, it was my first camera that my parents bought me as a boy to go with them on holiday on our first family seaside holiday after the war in 1947, they bought it from a newspaper advert from Gamages store in London for £5 . As far as I recall it was capable of decent results compared with most of the fixed focus roll film box cameras of the era because it had a rudimentary focusing mechanism and had a reasonable lens. I still had the camera up to a few years ago but I don't remember what happened to it.
 
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I have both the Ensign Ful-Vue and Ful-Vue II cameras and have shot with both.
The one you picture that doesn't have a viewfinder hood is fun to shoot and can take nice photos but it is as basic as you can get without going pinhole. It looks like far more than it is.
Cute and fun lomo-type experience.
 

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Well Kodak Ltd made many hundreds of thousands of Box Brownies in the UK, this was a different approach. Personally I first came across a Ful-Vue aged 5, our new next door neighbours daughter used one, I couldn't understand then why the results were so poor compared to my mums Brownie 127. All these cameras relied on very old style films like Selochome and Verichrome and later the Pan versions, very thick emulsions and great latitude compared to modern films.

The Ful-Vue was a the exact opposite of the high quality cameras Houghtons made for many years.

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The Ensign Ful-Vue is a far more serious-looking camera than any Brownie model I've ever seen.
 

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saw one in a "vintage" shop today.

£40

hmm there's one born every minute?
 
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The Ensign Ful-Vue is a far more serious-looking camera than any Brownie model I've ever seen.

That's just appearances, not reality. About the only advantage over box Brownies is a larger finder but it's quite crude... They sold in large numbers at a time when there were severe import restrictions after WWII in the UK, and a big shortage of cameras.

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Oh, I'm quite aware of that. I simply meant, in comparison, Kodak Brownies seem to always have a cheap, often toy-like appearance about them.
 

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It looks like the head of some kind of cybernetic creature.
 

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It looks like the head of some kind of cybernetic creature.

For a similar reason I suppose, is why these little cameras have always fascinated me when I've seen them on auction sites. I vaguely remember visiting an internet site for users of them and being impressed by some of the pictures on there. As a Holga and other basic camera lover, I can see me treating myself sometime soon to one.

Does anyone know if one model is any better than others before I buy? Otherwise I will be basing my decision purely on any camera's cosmetics.

Terry S
 

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...It looks like far more than it is.
That is a very concise and unfortunately accurate summary!

Don't get me wrong, Ful-Vues certainly have their charms and I liked my model II version enough to have spent a fair amount of time nursing it to a usable and cosmetically attractive condition. Some of it's nicer the nicer features in my opinion (comparing it to other simple cameras) include the big bright viewfinder, a polished metal (rather than coated glass) mirror, an adjustable focus lens, and the all-metal construction and black crinkle-finish paint which gives it a solid, almost appliance-like feel. Aesthetically speaking, I just love the quirky, I guess you could say "steampunk" styling of the thing.

But in a number of ways I have to admit that it doesn't seem very well designed or built. The main thing is that it produces images which are surprisingly blurry even for a simple camera of this type. this may have something to do with its oddly designed glass lens - for whatever reason they made this one a very thick plano-convex shape instead of the more typical thin meniscus; something I've never seen in an old old camera before. The lens mount also has a considerable amount of play in it's adjustment, making focus even less reliable than what you might expect (although maybe mine is just excessively worn?).

The shutter is another area with some issues. Even after my best refurbishment efforts I haven’t been able to get the mechanism to overcome it's tendency to occasionally catch or jamb. Then there is the release lever itself - a small, bent metal tab, which is not the greatest design from an ergonomic point of view - I find it awkward and uncomfortable to actuate.

Despite the flaws though, it is still a fun and interesting camera, both in appearance and use. I have a preference for the post-war "II" model myself, but frankly that's only based on aesthetics. I have never owned one of the earlier model with which to compare performance, reliability, etc.
 
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