Enlarging color negatives on b&w paper?

ic-racer · May 8, 2012

Bob Carnie said:
Thomas
I have never tested the paper under an enlarger to see its response to colour neg or bw neg for that matter.. I suspect it would be very much like a grade 4 paper, remember the calibration step is done to lay down tone before any files are printed so the computer adjusts itself to the emulsion it is trying to activate. Meaning contrast/density control is done before the paper is given any images to print.

You don't happen to have a roll of it...?

Bob Carnie · May 8, 2012

I have three rolls of the RC , few years old.

ic-racer said:
You don't happen to have a roll of it...?

Roger Cole · May 8, 2012

Bob Carnie said:
Thomas
I have never tested the paper under an enlarger to see its response to colour neg or bw neg for that matter.. I suspect it would be very much like a grade 4 paper, remember the calibration step is done to lay down tone before any files are printed so the computer adjusts itself to the emulsion it is trying to activate. Meaning contrast/density control is done before the paper is given any images to print.

Selectol soft (ok, off brand equivalent) and/or Beers or water bath - I could probably live with grade 4 if that's all that was available. I could for-sure live with grade 3. That would be my preference in a graded paper in only one grade anyway. In my experience most C41 is pretty tonally soft the impression of contrast coming more from the color contrast anyway. It's easy to swing a half grade each way with development controls, and it's rare I ever need anything softer than 2.5.

Yes please Simon if this is just red-sensitive Galerie that will work for optical printing of C41 negatives let us have it in sheets!

Roger Cole · May 8, 2012

Roger Cole said:
That's the prior Panalure Select, not the Select II. That means it's older and less likely to be in good shape. I thought the II worked quite well, but heard mixed reports about the prior version.

It seems I got my Panalures out of order. The Select was the one I liked, which followed Panalure II. I don't think there was a Select II. I don't see an expiration date on this paper though, or any mention of how it was stored.

David Lyga · May 17, 2012

Panalure paper is the WORST, by far, for keeping without age-fogging. And, also light fogging (banish safelights when using it).

It does not age gracefully. A perfect box of 250 sheets of 8x10 was perfect one year and a disaster the next (at room temp). I do not forget losses like that too quickly. - David Lyga

Roger Cole · May 17, 2012

Ouch. Well I bought the above linked paper which they claimed was cold stored. It's in my freezer now. Maybe I will try it out this weekend.

I've had no problem with it in years past using the same safelight I use for RA4, an Osram Duka 50. I use it ONLY for color (which means I haven't used it for years) to save the precious irreplaceable lamp. I now also have a Jobo Maxilux which is supposed to be safe for color. I know the Duka is safe for Panalure. I will test the paper before trying the Jobo.

You're absolutely right of course that regular black and white safelights will utterly fog Panalure which needs to be handled like color paper when it cones to safelights.

Terry Christian · May 17, 2012

I just printed a rather abstract C-41 neg, from Kodak BW400CN film, onto Ilford Multigrade IV RC 5x7 paper, using a grade 3 filter. I got wonderful results.

Roger Cole · May 17, 2012

Terry Christian said:
I just printed a rather abstract C-41 neg, from Kodak BW400CN film, onto Ilford Multigrade IV RC 5x7 paper, using a grade 3 filter. I got wonderful results.

Well yes I'm sure you did. The topic is printing "color" (which BW400CN is not) on black and white paper, not necessarily C41. I love XP2 and how it prints too.

Enlarging color negatives on b&w paper?

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