Endura/Crystal Archive processing

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Hello,

Is there a way to process these papers with separate bleach and fixer, or must I use blix?

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I've used ferricyanide+bromide bleach and E6 fixer with perfect results when I had only defective Tetenal blix which gave me bad results. You probably need good wash before and after the bleach this way.
 
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Thanks for the suggestion, hrst.

Any thoughts on his method?

How about using C-41 bleach and fixer? Like b/w, are they basically the same chemicals at different concentrations for film and for paper? The fixer is cheap as dirt, and I happen to have a ton of the bleach sitting around, plus it has quite a working life, and can pretty easily be regenerated.
 

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You can use C41 bleach and fix with RA papers.

You can also use a rehal ferri bleach and fix but you will need a clearing bath after the developer.

I cannot say what dye stability will be, as the stronger oxidants can degrade the stabilizing agents.

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Thanks, PE.

Would one use C-41 bleach and fixer on RA paper at the same working strength as for film?

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I cannot say what dye stability will be, as the stronger oxidants can degrade the stabilizing agents.
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Was this sentence in reference to using C-41 chems for RA-4-intended paper, or in reference to the ferri bleach? I would, of course, need stable dyes!
 

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The sentence referred to the Ferri bleach. Sorry for the ambiguity.

The working strength is what works. Sorry. Just try it along with a wash and then test for retained silver and hypo.

As a generalization, you will need to dilute C41 about 1:1 to work with RA papers, but this varies. Also, the correct wash must be checked out. You can get stain. The iron can ppt out as a hydroxide giving a brownish stain. If so, EDTA can help.

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As I mentioned in another post, I found out that I have been using separate bleach and fixer baths the entire time I have printed at the community lab where I have done my color printing for the past five years. As soon as the session begins again, I will find out the source for the chems.
 
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