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One goal I have for this summer is to make a controlled precipitation using vAg measurement and peristaltic pumps controlled by an Arduino. It's rather difficult to find KNO3 for a salt bridge that isn't contaminated with chloride (one source I found was quoted at 300 ppm Cl-. By a quick back of the envelope calculation, I guess that would amount to 0.17 mg of NaCl equivalent if you needed 100 mL of 0.1 M KNO3 -- so I guess this would be negligible).

But before I get to this, I have a few more elementary problems to overcome!

I've been having some difficulty with my emulsions when processing. I'm using gelatin from Photographer's Formulary and I'm making the grade 2 azo-type emulsion from PE's book. Instead of using the 5.0 mL of 4% glyoxal as PE suggests in the book, I used 0.5 mL of 40% glyoxal, delivered with an air-displacement micropipette. I've calibrated the pipette and verified that it can consistently deliver 0.5 mL to within 5%. I've controlled the temperature of the processing solutions reasonably carefully to 20 deg. C. The paper is Strathmore Smooth.

I develop in home-mixed Kodak D-72 (Dektol), so it contains a good deal of carbonate, which I've heard may cause problems due to the evolution of CO2 in the presence of acid.

At first I tried using a weak stop bath (1% acetic acid) and fixing in Photographer's Formulary TF-4. I didn't notice any problems until the print went into the fixer. Small "blisters" of what appears to be granules of undissolved gelatin appeared. I performed the check described by PE in his DVD set to ensure that all of the gelatin was completely dissolved/melted (no gel slugs), so I can rule out that possibility. This is what the emulsion looked like after coming out of the fixer:
tf-4.png


After washing and drying, the print looked mostly ok, albeit with some additional texture.

I then decided that perhaps I shouldn't use an alkaline rapid fixer, so I mixed up a package of Kodak fixer (powder) which has a hardener mixed in. This time, I got large bubbles inflating. Sometimes this occurred when the print went into the stop bath (again, 1% acetic acid). Sometimes the bubble(s) did not appear until the print went into the fixer. Both these solutions are acidic, so I perhaps these are bubbles of carbonate. I could hear the gelatin "squealing" as gas was released from the emulsion. There were only a small number of these large bubbles: either 1, 2 or none. The paper was the same as the above paper, but it had aged by approximately 1 month. Here's what the large bubbles look like:
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Both photos are 4x5 prints. The bubbles in the second photo are about the size of a dime.

Should I give up on Dektol? Or is it a problem with my hardener? Any advice is much appreciated.
 

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I've heard squealing off FB paper in acid fixer...maybe same thing but naturally your emulsion will be more susceptible to whatever's going on. Suggest you use a water fix.
 

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What's a water fix?

I neglected to mention that I tried a water rinse in lieu of a stop bath, but still got the large bubbles when the print went into the acid fix.

A water fix is my sad attempt to try to type water stop. I’ll leave it unedited to remain forever as a memorial to my inability to review before hitting reply.

Might want to try something other than Dektol. The larger bubbles form because the hardening gelatin is more resilient and doesn’t break when the CO2 forms. That’s my guess.
 
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Back in the "old days", Otto Croy recommended a "stop-bath" to be considered more an kind of intermediate wash. So a minimum amount of acid is added to avoid accumulation of active developer in the stop, but no more. The final stop - if required - occurs in the acid fixer.

I´d try a less acid stop bath and leaving the print in the stop bath for a few minutes in order to wash out all the developer which soaked into the paper.
 

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Here, we routinely use a stop after a Dektol developer, as well as a hardening acid fix and we have no problem. However, that said, I can clearly see the problem is the evolution of Carbon Dioxide gas in the stop and/or fix steps. This is usually due to insufficient hardening or the wrong type of gelatin or both. I have also seen it with some types of paper.

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As for the salt bridge... I forgot to answer that above. I use 4M KNO3 for the bridge stiffened with something like Carboxy Methyl Cellulose just to make it a bit thick. I plug the ends with cotton soaked in the mix and I fill the tubing with a syringe. This is not an easy process but it works.

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Thanks for the replies. I may try increasing the amount of glyoxal before trying a different developer.

In regards to the salt bridge, the KNO3 I've sourced has 300 ppm [Cl-]: is this going to be problematic?

If the chloride would interfere significantly at that concentration, I guess I could try and titrate the KNO3 filling solution with AgNO3 and filter out the AgCl. Of course I'd rather not.
 

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Ian,
What paper are you using? Re Ron's comment that it might be the paper, I agree. I suggest you try changing paper before you do too much else. d
 

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Then the paper is not likely the problem. I use that myself with no problems. I have had problems with some others though.

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