Edward Weston & "model wife"

jtk · Dec 4, 2021

jtk · Dec 4, 2021

jtk · Dec 4, 2021

jtk · Dec 4, 2021

Mike Lopez · Dec 4, 2021

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Mike Lopez · Dec 4, 2021

jtk said:

Mike Lopez · Dec 4, 2021

jtk said:

Mike Lopez · Dec 4, 2021

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Mike Lopez · Dec 4, 2021

And interestingly, EW’s Daybooks come to an end right around the time he met Charis. I’m not near my copy right now, but I believe the last published entry (or close to it) reads that EW had found a new love, one which he believed would stand the test of time. And then the entries end. I’ve always found that to be fascinating.

Alan Edward Klein · Dec 5, 2021

I'd be happy if my wife would just show a little more interest in my work.

eli griggs · Dec 5, 2021

Some artists perform their best when their model inspires them to want to investigate every other inch of them, repeatedly, endlessly, as they become lovers and the artist and model/lover explore the possibilities of each, without barriers.

IMO.

Arthurwg · Dec 5, 2021

jtk said:
Don't know if Charis was aware of Mather's secondary profession...

Yes, MM was known to trade favors for art supplies. But she was also credited with helping Weston turn from pictorialism to modernism, making her a very important influence.

jtk · Dec 5, 2021

So, are we suggesting that EW became a "modernist" when he settled into a comfortable relationship... or did his modernism have more to do with stimulating new proximity to San Francisco and its ambiance? SF had a long leftist tradition, going back to Mark Twain...totally unlike LA...

sasah zib · Dec 6, 2021

Dow. Modernism. Origin story.

VinceInMT · Dec 6, 2021

Alan Edward Klein said:
I'd be happy if my wife would just show a little more interest in my work.

Mine shows little interest in my hobbies, interests, and passions (photography, vintage foreign cars, magnetic recording tape, my drawing and painting, woodworking, motorcycling, etc.) but she also shows no interest in what I spend on them so there is that.

Arthurwg · Dec 6, 2021

jtk said:
So, are we suggesting that EW became a "modernist" when he settled into a comfortable relationship... or did his modernism have more to do with stimulating new proximity to San Francisco and its ambiance? SF had a long leftist tradition, going back to Mark Twain...totally unlike LA...

If you are talking about MM, I don't think they ever settled into a comfortable relationship. She was a bohemian first and last, disappearing for long periods and than returning.

jtk · Dec 7, 2021

Arthurwg said:
If you are talking about MM, I don't think they ever settled into a comfortable relationship. She was a bohemian first and last, disappearing for long periods and than returning.

Arthur, please read again. I clearly addressed "settling" with Charis.

Arthurwg · Dec 7, 2021

Somewhere I got the impression that MM was the one who steered EM to modernism, rather than Charis. And I didn't see a mention of Charis in your post #63.

juan · Dec 8, 2021

Arthurwg said:
Somewhere I got the impression that MM was the one who steered EM to modernism, rather than Charis. And I didn't see a mention of Charis in your post #63.

I think you’re right. Weston was modernist long before Charis came along.

jtk · Dec 8, 2021

My guess is that EW guided himself, influenced by the times more than any individual save, perhaps, Albert Bender.

jtk · Dec 8, 2021

Arthurwg said:
Somewhere I got the impression that MM was the one who steered EM to modernism, rather than Charis. And I didn't see a mention of Charis in your post #63.

Arthur I hoped to imply that Charis meant a comfortable type of relationship, especially as EW aged. I don't think anybody "steered" him.

jtk · Dec 8, 2021

Note that Bender had a lot to do with AAs success as well.

Merg Ross · Dec 8, 2021

jtk said:
My guess is that EW guided himself, influenced by the times more than any individual save, perhaps, Albert Bender.

I think that is true regarding his work. As to his ultimate stature in the world of photography, one must not overlook also the influence of Merle Armitage, David McAlpin, and Beaumont Newhall. The latter two also had a lot to do with Ansel's success, re your post above.

jtk · Dec 9, 2021

Merg Ross said:
I think that is true regarding his work. As to his ultimate stature in the world of photography, one must not overlook also the influence of Merle Armitage, David McAlpin, and Beaumont Newhall. The latter two also had a lot to do with Ansel's success, re your post a

Yes!

Google McAlpin to see some excellent virtually never reproduced EW portraits.

Some think "peppers" and "nudes" when thinking about EW, but his Mexican and subsequent portraits were far more powerful than many are aware. Personally, I think his Mexican portraits were his very best work.

DonW · Dec 9, 2021

jtk said:
Yes!

Google McAlpin to see some excellent virtually never reproduced EW portraits.

Some think "peppers" and "nudes" when thinking about EW, but his Mexican and subsequent portraits were far more powerful than many are aware. Personally, I think his Mexican portraits were his very best work.

I think we need more than just the name "McAlpin".

Edward Weston & "model wife"

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