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Eastman Kodak temporarily paused all film production - to upgrade manufacturing plant (Nov 2024)

I don't mind not being able to buy VIsion 3 if they make Max 800 or Lomography 800 available at a price that isn't batshit crazy.

To me, as a Native English speaker, "a shutdown in November" means the production line will be shut down for an unspecified time during November. I would infer that the intention is to resume by December 1st or very soon thereafter.

The fact that they are modernising some aspects of film production can only be seen in a positive light.
 
hgernhardt said:
So does that mean something along the lines of B&H won't be able to stock the 400' rolls of Vision3 any longer?
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It means that as a private consumer you can't order these rolls directly from Eastman Kodak anymore. What it means for distribution through retailers like B&H etc. is unclear.
 
cerber0s said:
Wait what!? I don’t care much for the respooled films without remjet layer, but I recently started bulk loading Kodak Vision 3. Are you saying I won’t be able to buy Vision 3 in bulk rolls in the future?
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Only if you can show Kodak you intend to use them for making movies.
 
Kino said:
If this is true, I would hate to be an emulsion line worker at Kodak right now.

These systems have the inertia of God and shutting down a coating line, modifying it and restarting it is little short of a moon-shot in complexity.

Good luck Kodak!
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Nightmare scenario is when the successful operation before the shutdown depended on unknown unknowns (D.Rumsfeld) that somehow disappear during the improvement.
 
Alan Edward Klein said:
Only if you can show Kodak you intend to use them for making movies.
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I’ve never bought directly from Kodak, I use a retailer here in Europe. So I guess the big question if Kodak will keep selling to the retailers? From what I understand, they won’t?
 
Alan Edward Klein said:
Only if you can show Kodak you intend to use them for making movies.
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Where does that put companies like Cinestill(I know not they're not the only ones) who seemingly buy large quantities of film for respooling.

I know that what we once called Kodak is now a convoluted arrangement of different naming rights and distribution channels for various products(i.e. Kodak Alaris, etc) but isn't Cinestill now in charge of the distribution of Kodak-branded chemistry at least in the US? If that's the case, it would seem..strange...to me to cut off their primary business.

(plus, I've come to really enjoy Double-X, and will be sorry if it's no longer available in some form as a still film. I know that a lot of cinema stocks are at least somewhat related to still stocks-i.e. Vision and Portra-but AFAIK the closest still equivalent to Double-X is the long-gone Super-XX)
 

I imagine they'll have to stop respooling. That seems to put them in competition with Alaris, which has a contract with Kodak to be the exclusive photo film distributor of Kodak film.

Contact Cinestill.

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The current agreement between Kodak Alaris and Eastman Kodak permits Kodak to make the special runs of film that Cinestill uses - which itself is different from the film that is used by the movie industry.
It lacks remjet from the start.
 
Who is the company that makes the film? Isn't it Kodak Alaris? Why are we talking about Eastman Kodak?
 

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wang qing song said:
Who is the company that makes the film? Isn't it Kodak Alaris? Why are we talking about Eastman Kodak?
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Eastman Kodak remains as the manufacturer of the still films and owner of all the associated trademarks. They also manufacture and market all the motion picture films. And they manufacture and market the Estar base. Plus they manufacture some of the photo-chemistry for motion picture film processing.
Kodak Alaris has the exclusive world-wide marketing and distribution rights for all Kodak branded still films. They don't manufacture any products.
Other entities have marketing and distribution rights for other Kodak branded photographic products - Photo Systems for the photochemistry (which they also manufacture), and another not particularly easy to identify successor to Sino Promise Holdings for the Kodak branded RA4 process colour paper, which itself may be manufactured by another party, or may be manufactured by that marketer..
 

Great news. Kodak said in the article that demand has doubled in the last five years, and they doubled staff in the last three years, with positions still open. It's cold in Rochester, NY, if you need a job. Interestingly, one-time cameras have grown a lot for Gen X and Millenials. This bodes well for Kodak Alaris, their world-wide sole distributor, especially since Kodak stopped third-party respooling of photo film.
 
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Alan Edward Klein said:
It's cold in Rochester, NY, if you need a job
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but it is Right by Lake Ontario, which has a moderating effect, the Lake effect snow if more likely to land further east In Watertown NY. Rochester is almost across the lake from Toronto.

Now the Ottawa Ont. area where I live -That can be cold.
 
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