DURST RCP 20 MANUAL

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Hi everyone,

I just got my hands on a Durst RCP 20 and I wonder if any of you lads has the User manual so I can learn how to use it properly before I open my darkroom.

Thank you in advance!
 

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There's not much to know. Plug in the machine, set the dial to the right temperature and wait for the red light in the on/off switch to remain off when you press the round button next to it. Feed in paper emulsion down and wait for it to come out the other side.

I assume you checked that your machine runs at the appropriate speed for RA4 processing. Many of the older machines were geared for an older process that takes much longer; RA4 won't work in these machines unless you modify them.
 
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I barely checked it. I just know it works and all mechanisms move. Any idea on where I can find how to modify in case I need it?

Thank you very much Koraks
 

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If everything moves, that's a good sign. Here are some more things to check:
* Ensure the rollers are in good shape. On many machines, they have become bloated, with bumps along the way. While the machine may still work Ok as it is, at some point, the rollers will need to be replaced or refurbished.
* The racks should be clean and free of any dirt or rust.
* Check if the white bracket that holds the rack drive couplers in place is present, and if the little red rack drive couplers are also present. These are visible parallel to the drive shaft if you take off the lid to access the racks.
* Check if the thermostat functions correctly. This is a mechanical thermostat just like in a typical refrigerator and they sometimes malfunction. You can check correct operation by filling the developer and blix tanks with water, set the thermostat to the desired temperature and then monitor using a thermometer if the water temperature comes up to the right temperature and stays there.
* Check if the circulation pump works well. Same as above; fill the baths with water and check if it starts pumping.
* Check transport speed; with the tanks filled etc., run a piece of RC paper (doesn't matter if it's black and white or color; any reject print will do) through the machine and observe how long it takes. It should be around 45 seconds each for the developer and the blix baths if the machine is geared for RA4. It'll be several minutes per bath if it's an older, unmodified machine.


Any idea on where I can find how to modify in case I need it?

I'm planning to do a blog on this, but the essential information is still present here: https://www.vogelstimmen-wehr.de/rcp20.htm
The actual parts listed on that web page are surprisingly still available from Conrad as of now.
You will need to enlarge a hole on one of the gears you need to buy, machine the drive axel down by a millimeter if memory serves, you'll need to reposition the motor (and enlarge the mounting slots for it) to tension the drive belt and you'll need to install a new fan because the original fan (which isn't very effective anyway) is in the way of one of the new gears. I printed a new fan for my machine (which turns out to work much better than the original) and also installed a little CPU fan that blows across the coil of the motor. Keep in mind that due to the higher turning speed of the machine, the motor runs hotter than it does originally, so adequate cooling is a good idea. This is probably also the reason why Durst & Thermaphot didn't give any warranty on the modified machines and didn't recommend modifying them.
If your machine has badly damaged rollers, keep in mind that this creates additional friction, making the racks much harder to turn for the motor. Do not modify the machine unless the racks run smoothly, otherwise you might burn out the motor and it'll be a chore to find a replacement for it.
Again, I'm planning to do a blog with a couple of photos that show the essential elements that I found missing or incomplete on the website linked to above. I'll try to remember to post back here once I get that post up.
 

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PS: excellent news also concerning the user manual, because Stefan Wehr (the guy from the site I linked to) was so kind back in 2010 before he sold his RCP20 to scan and upload the manual. It's in German, but you can probably still make sense of it. Or just OCR the images and run them through Google Translate. Here you go, bottom of the page: https://www.vogelstimmen-wehr.de/rcp.htm
 
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Far beyond my expectations,

Thank you very much Koraks, it's been very helpful.

I'll do a test with an old print to measure the timings between chemicals and I'll let you know.

Thanks again
 

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Great, let me know if you have any questions. I've got the machine sitting here in a corner and I regularly take it out for a spin, so it's easy for me to try something out or look something up for you.
 
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Hi there Koraks,

I finally open my RCP and yes, it's not made to develop RA-4 process. I checked the links from your blog and the German one and I'm about to buy the cogwheels.
But I have a few questions now that I would be very pleased if you can help me through.

Can I contact you somewhere else to make it a bit easier?
Thank you very much.

Javier
 

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Javier, feel free to ask your questions here; that way it'll be helpful as well for other people who might have the same questions in the future!
 
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Sure thing!

How did you manage to take out the cogwheels and the fan? Does it take to remove another parts or just pull the pieces out?
 

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To remove the fan, unbolt the motor mechanism and pull the fan off the motor shaft. There are tools for removing things from shafts; I think they're actually called shaft pullers. Alternatively you could try heating the fan with a hairdryer or better yet a hot air gun to soften the plastic and then pull it off.

As I recall it was the same for the cog on the motor side. The drive shaft that drives the racks you'll need to remove anyway in order to machine it down to the correct diameter (at least the end where the cog sits). If you've got it out, you can pull off the cog from that axis as well. Be sure to note the locations of the various locking rings and spacers on the drive shaft so you can reassemble everything in the correct order when you're done.
 
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PPS: you're in luck, I just wrote that blog because I had been putting it off anyway. Here it is, hope it helps: https://tinker.koraks.nl/photography/roll-another-one-modifying-the-durst-rcp20-for-ra4-processing/
I think that between this blog and the Vogelstimmen website you should have all you need to convert yours if it happens to be necessary.

Thanks for this. I just bought a mint machine from Germany and still need to modify it. Glad there’s a small community of people still using these!!
 
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