I develop only B&W. Many in this group wash film for only a few minutes in the final wash, I wash at least 30 minutes. I mix photoflo, one cap to 1 qt/liter of distilled water, take the film 120/135 OFF of the reel and, holding one end of the film, dip it into the dil photoflo, letting the 'natural' curl of the film roll and unroll for less than a minute (30 sec. or so). I never let my reels nor tanks touch any 'wetting agents' of any type. (read what Jobo has to say about that). I then hang the film without any final rinse, watching for droplets on either side of the film. If I see any, I know that my wetting agent has not done its job so I dump it and mix fresh, then re-treat the film. The water must 'sheet' off the film and not leave droplets. If it doesn't, something is wrong. Our climate is always humid, tap water is usually ph7. I don't get water-spots and haven't for many years. I use both SS and Jobo plastic tanks. I have been known to boil used SS tanks and reels to be sure of no wetting agent contamination.........Regards!I think we're talking about two kinds of drying marks. Your approach should remedy drying marks from deposits in the water. I don't want those either, but I'm talking more about drying marks caused by uneven drying -- i.e. the area under a standing bead of water will dry more slowly than the area around it leaving a visible mark along the border.
Oh nooo ... problem isn't solved jet?
OK - crash course : "TO AVOID ANY MORE WATERMARKS IN THE FUTURE"
1 ) double time of final rinse
2) try foto flow but in much less quantity
3) 1 step with destilled water
4) 2 bath destilled water (don't mix the baths)
5) try to dry your film - water marks again?
Then went back to step 1.
with regards
PS : Never heard about such resistant water marks like here.......
I would wonder about the long term effect of the acid vinegar on the negative.
This is exactly the problem I had here some time back:Finally, there is the somewhat random problem of uneven drying, which seems to bother some more than others and some films more that others. When droplets form on the film's surface (i.e., no surfactant or not enough), the areas under the droplets will dry at a different rate than the rest of the emulsion. This can cause some stress and stressing of the emulsion at the interface of these two areas, sometimes causing rings that correspond to the perimeter of the droplets (or streaks if there are runs on the emulsion's surface). I would imagine that films with less hardening are more susceptible to this than others...
This is quite a different problem, but as the OP I feel I should update everyone. This is one of two steps I took to address my problem. I live in a known hard water area, and always rinsed with tap water. Photo-Flo I mixed with distilled water but didn't soak the film in it very long. My last rinse cycle is now a three to five minute soak in plain distilled water.Another common cause of water marks is dissolved minerals. In areas of hard or mineralized water, these minerals get into the film's emulsion and when the film dries cause mineral deposits to form on and in the emulsion. The solution here (pun intended) is to soak the film in distilled or demineralized water long enough for enough ion exchange to take place so that the retained minerals in the emulsion are negligible.
use as little photo-flow as possible. I use 10% of recommended, yes 1 drop per film dev tank and as you distilled water as a last rinse.However ,I squeegee through two fingers after having from top to bottom.fingers don't scratch oil;at least mine don't.good luck!
A surfactent is used to lower the surface tension of the water. This will cause the water to sheet off the film without forming droplets. If you notice that the final rinse is foaming then you are using too much Photo-Flo. Photo-Flo contains an anti foaming agent but it can be defeated if you use too much.
Yes, I use distilled water! Please let's eliminate the water quality variable straight off.
I'm still getting drying marks on my film. I use Photo-Flo at the recommended dilution mixed with distilled water. I soak for one minute. Also, my last rinse cycle is with distilled water. I shake the film while on the reel to remove excess water. I hang the film vertically (but I get marks top and bottom).
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