Double-X 5222

David A. Goldfarb · May 27, 2008

The recommended developer and developing time for 5222 is probably designed to give lower contrast results than you would want for normal prints, since it would typically be printed to a higher contrast print film for projection. Cine neg films are generally lower in contrast than still films.

PhotoJim · May 27, 2008

Good point. Thanks for mentioning it.

In any event, I have 400' of it to play with so that's lots of opportunities to try different developers, etc. Given its old-technology roots, I am hoping it develops really nicely in PMK.

Tom Hoskinson · May 27, 2008

Tim Gray said:
Thinking of picking up some 5222 from Film Emporium. I'll check to see if they short ends, but if not, I have some questions about ordering 400' of the stuff.

I've heard you can get them to respool it to 100' rolls. That sounds good to me. Will those 100' rolls go right into my Watson bulk loader? Is there anything I should be aware of?

Alternately, is there some kind of daylight loader that I could use for 400' or even 200' rolls? I ask because I live in a small apartment and its pretty hard to find blackout conditions - loading up the bulk roll once in the dark is going to be a pain enough in my changing bag. For those of you who shoot movie stock, how do you generally proceed with the 400' rolls?

Lastly, any other tips with 5222, movie stocks, or bulk rolling? I'll be using Xtol for developing. I've read here that its 250D, but for still use, meter at 400...

Thanks!

See: http://www.kodak.com/US/plugins/acrobat/en/motion/products/bw/h15222.pdf

KODAK D-76, KODAK D-96, d-96A and XTOL DEVELOPERS all work well with KODAK 5222 X X 35mm Cine B&W negative Film.

Larry Bullis · Jun 7, 2008

I'm testing this now, and am coming in pretty close on it. Just to be sure that I don't make it too easy for anyone, I'm using Germain to develop it. I don't think I've ever seen such extraordinary negatives. If you want to give it a shot, try 10 minutes at 68°F, which is great for overcast conditions, and it is looking like ISO 125 or so is where it is going to shake out.

I've been wanting to try Germain for awhile, because it can be replenished with its own stock solution and lasts, according to Mo himself, virtually forever. I like that! Since I will be working in my truck camper, it makes things easier. The acutance is astonishing; the cleanliness of the shadow areas no less so. Haven't made prints yet, but the highlights appear richly detailed and well defined.

nworth · Jun 8, 2008

D-96 is also a D-76 derivative, although it is pretty far derived. Note that Kodak used to recommend D-76 as the motion picture negative developer. D-96 is:

Water (50C) 750 ml
Metol 2 g
Sodium sulfite (anh) 75 g
Hydroquinone 1.5 g
Postassium bromide 400 mg
or
Sodium bromide 350 mg
Borax (decahydrate) 4.5 g
WTM 1 l
pH at 27C =8.6
Specific gravity at 27C = 1.068

Rolleiflexible · Jun 9, 2008

There is a really long active thread over on RFF
about shooting and processing 5222 in a variety
of developers --

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52426&highlight=5222

It's worth the effort to browse, if you're thinking of
using 5222 for still photography. Tom Abrahamsson
shoots a lot of it. Tom cautions that motion-picture
film stock is made to less-demanding tolerances
since occasional gelatin specks and other surface
blemishes will not affect a motion picture print.

Double-X 5222

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