Does anyone experience wiith these Kodak c41 chemicals by hand wash?

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Heisenberg

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Hi Guys,
First of all, I have to say that I have ever used only Tetenal c41 2baths for home developing with Paterson super system4 tank.
But one day I found that these Kodak chemicals(attached file) can ship to my house but I have no clue how to mix.
Is it possible to use with hand developing? I have no minilab. Does it need a developer starter?

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The image you posted appears to show Kodak's LORR LU product line for small minilab C-41 processors. The LU (=low utilization) line is targeted specifically at low volume outfits. I'd say start reading this document (CIS-246) and work yourself forward from there.
 
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Heisenberg, yes the chemicals you listed can be used for hand developing. Yes, you need a developer starter. Read the full thread in the "sticky" section, where bvy has explained the chemicals and how to mix them. After you read the thread in its entirety, come back and post questions and there are lots of people who will help.
 
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Heisenberg, yes the chemicals you listed can be used for hand developing. Yes, you need a developer starter. Read the full thread in the "sticky" section, where bvy has explained the chemicals and how to mix them. After you read the thread in its entirety, come back and post questions and there are lots of people who will help.
Thanks. I will figure it out soon.
 

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You really do NOT need a 'starter' which serves solely to slow down 'new' developer. Adjust the time, instead. I never have used a starter in 30 years. - David Lyga
 

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If the developer is a replenisher and the literature says to use the starter, then I would use it. All C-41 developer/replenishers need starter to supply necessary ingredients to make a proper working developer, whether used in a machine or by hand. That is why it is called "starter". (The ingredients are not needed for replenishment.) Otherwise, you will not get optimum, in-spec results. If you do not use it, then be prepared to accept whatever you get.

David, IIRC, you process at low temperatures with dilutions so your results are not optimum in any case.
 
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If the developer is a replenisher and the literature says to use the starter, then I would use it. All C-41 developer/replenishers need starter to supply necessary ingredients to make a proper working developer, whether used in a machine or by hand. That is why it is called "starter". (The ingredients are not needed for replenishment.) Otherwise, you will not get optimum, in-spec results. If you do not use it, then be prepared to accept whatever you get.

David, IIRC, you process at low temperatures with dilutions so your results are not optimum in any case.
Thanks, RPC. After Reseach on google with my bad English. Now my understanding is a lot more. But only Thing still confuses me is How to mix it in the large quantities. I.E. What if I have undeveloped films for 300 rolls (135-36 and 120) and I don't want to give It one shot or extended time. I just want to do only replenishment system by hand. The first step I mix replenisher from Part A+B+C(I attached files of bootles and manual) to be Replenish bottle. After that I use 763ml of replenisher bottle to mix with Starter for 30ml+water to make 1L, I would have got the working solution Developer. AFter Got Real Developer and Replenisher, Every time I dev 136-36/120 I have to replenish 27ml from Replenisher bottle until it ran out of 10L mixed Replenisher bottle. That means I use only 30ml Starter for developing the whole 10L of Dev part. Does it make any sense or I am wrong?

This is what I understand. Please school me.
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Thanks,
Heisenberg
Ps. What about Bleach+Bleach Starter, Is it the same as Developer?
 

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