do you say ... ?

BobD · Jan 13, 2020

Kodak RETina or reTEEna or something else?

Hunter_Compton · Jan 14, 2020

Both are correct, in English, it is pronounced as the first example in the OP's post. The latter is the German pronunciation.

AgX · Jan 14, 2020

paulbarden said:
I've heard it pronounced both ways, but I believe it was intended to be pronounced the same way you pronounce the retina in your eye.

Good point. But....

In Germany I think the camera name is pronounced Retina, which is the standard way to pronounce such words over here, whereas the anatomical term has to be pronounced Retina.

Chan Tran · Jan 14, 2020

So how do you pronounce the term Retina first coined by Apple for their display?

eric antonio · Jan 14, 2020

i say it like "rhet" eena

Dan Fromm · Jan 14, 2020

Hmm. OP, no matter how you pronounce the word someone somewhere will tell you you're wrong. Please yourself and to hell with everyone else.

jim10219 · Jan 14, 2020

Rhit-nah is the Oklahoma way to say it.

BobD · Jan 14, 2020

Dan Fromm said:
Hmm. OP, no matter how you pronounce the word someone somewhere will tell you you're wrong. Please yourself and to hell with everyone else.

I do please myself. I say reTEEna because that's what the people who made them call them, I'm told.

I was just curious how others pronounced it. I was watching a Chris Sherlock video and noticed he says RETina which surprised me a little but then he's down under where they do everything backwards.

Ko.Fe. · Jan 14, 2020

kodAk retinA

Ray Morgenweck · Jan 15, 2020

“Shutter problems”

Willy T · Jan 15, 2020

Ray Morgenweck said:
“Shutter problems”

or "fogged glass" ...

abruzzi · Jan 15, 2020

Maybe you two just bought the wrong Retina (REH-ti-nah)? Mine are all perfect—my absolute favorite rangefinders.

BrianShaw · Jan 15, 2020

abruzzi said:
Maybe you two just bought the wrong Retina (REH-ti-nah)? Mine are all perfect—my absolute favorite rangefinders.

+1

removedacct1 · Jan 15, 2020

abruzzi said:
Maybe you two just bought the wrong Retina (REH-ti-nah)? Mine are all perfect—my absolute favorite rangefinders.

Me too. I own 38 of them, from the first (the 117) to the Reflex III, and only once did I get one with a bad lens. For most of the models, the shutters are easily accessed and not difficult to service. My Reflex III has the Retina-Xenon f1.9 lens and it’s one of the nicest lenses I own.

Here is a photo I made yesterday with the Reflex/Retina-Xenon and TMY:

https://flic.kr/p/2ifsm5K

AgX · Jan 15, 2020

abruzzi said:
Maybe you two just bought the wrong Retina (REH-ti-nah)? Mine are all perfect—my absolute favorite rangefinders.

A Retina was the first camera I used. Though it must have gone something wrong at the plant... My father bought a Retina, but it lacked a rangefinder.

Willy T · Jan 15, 2020

abruzzi said:
Maybe you two just bought the wrong Retina (REH-ti-nah)? Mine are all perfect—my absolute favorite rangefinders.

Nice to hear. Years ago, I'd gotten a IIIc and a IIA for free. Both were immaculate-ish, but the inner len surfaces were fogged. At the time (2003-04), I searched for references on 'net boards, and found (speculative?) references to a 'permanent' fogging having been caused by long-term outgassing of old lubricants. With other RFs in hand, I dropped the issue and let 'em go.
I would love to come across a nice IIA REH-tina specimen - coolest RF ever to my eyes - but they're scarce on the ground around here, and I'm verrry leery of the auctioneers... For that reason, I still look in at Chris Sherlock's site "for sale" section from time to time ... hope springs eternal ...

markjwyatt · Jan 15, 2020

When I got my Retina Reflex IV, I had some winding issues. I took the camera to Ross Yerkes, who worked for Kodak and repaired these cameras in the past. I referred to he camera as a "Re Tin Uh", he said you mean "Re Teen Uh"? So, I took that as the most qualified opinion as to pronunciation so far.

AgX · Jan 15, 2020

markjwyatt said:
I took the camera to Ross Yerkes, who worked for Kodak and repaired these cameras in the past.

He likely worked for Kodak USA and not for Kodak Germany...

AgX · Jan 15, 2020

But the way Kodak USA pronounced it is as the OP indicated first:

But people at manufacturers did not even got their own manufacturers name names right between international plants...

MattKing · Jan 15, 2020

AgX said:
But the way Kodak USA pronounced it is as the OP indicated first:

Same for Kodak Canada, or at least the Retina specialist who ran the Kodak repair facility in the Kodak Lab where my Dad worked between 1961 and 1983.

AgX · Jan 15, 2020

But already the names Kodak or Agfa or Gevaert are pronounced differently within various plants of same manufacturer...

By the way, when I first had a Retina in hand, I did not even know the anatomical term retina, thus could only pronounce it the standard way for such words. And to my understanding all people over here did so.

markjwyatt · Jan 15, 2020

AgX said:
He likely worked for Kodak USA and not for Kodak Germany...

I think he was in Peru of Chile. But he specifically said he repaired these cameras.

markjwyatt · Jan 15, 2020

AgX said:
But the way Kodak USA pronounced it is as the OP indicated first:

But people at manufacturers did not even got their own manufacturers name names right between international plants...

That is what I would have thought, and maybe in English it should be correct. Clearly the name denotes the retina in the eye upon which images are projected for our seeing, and that is how we pronounce retina.

AgX · Jan 15, 2020

Over here there hardly were any camera tv commercials at all. (At least I neither remember them nor have found them archived except of very few.) Thus here there never was something as a right pronunciation. Another good example would be Canon.

abruzzi · Jan 15, 2020

AgX said:
A Retina was the first camera I used. Though it must have gone something wrong at the plant... My father bought a Retina, but it lacked a rangefinder.

Maybe it was a Retina I? I don't know when they started the numbering pattern, but the I was scale focus only, the II was a rangefinder, and the III was a rangefinder with a meter. The letter more or less indicates the generation--a IIa and IIIa were the same generation but only the latter had a meter. the C (big C) was the last generation of the rangefinder before they moved to the reflexes. My favorite is a IIIC--big beautiful finder, frame lines for 50, 35, and 80mm, and especially that 50mm ƒ2 Xenon lens is beautiful. Shooting with the 35 and 80 is a little more deliberate, but not as bad as people make out. Its just like shooting with an uncoupled rangefinder.

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