I cut the paper to square before I print when working with the Hasselblad photographs. [Most of the time]
I don't feel screwed cutting off some paper when printing 35mm full fame. If you cut the paper before you print, you can use the excess for initial test strips. Anyway, depending on print size, it could be as little as an inch or so. Of course, I understand others may have different priorities, and make different decisions with respect to financial matters. Do you crop your Hasselblad negatives to fit standard paper sizes? Maybe Hasselblad has frames you can insert in the viewfinder to facilitate that. I am not really that up on Hasselblad accessories.
But, but, how do you include the film rebate in your final image to show your other cool friends that you are edgy and shoot film?
I suppose you can add it back in with Photoshop..... [/Sarcasm].
I shot loose and generally crop later, whether it's in the dark or digitally.
16 pages folks, I'm impressed!
Showing the rebate is not really edgy. Photographers have been doing it for at least fifty or sixty years. It may even be old fashioned now. Anyway, you should be able to tell the difference between a print from film and a print from a digital camera. If you can't, I am not sure why you shoot film. If your friends can't tell the difference, maybe you need some new friends. They don't seem all that cool to me.
I don't either. It keeps the viewer guessing.I do not bother to print the rebate...
But, but, how do you include the film rebate in your final image to show your other cool friends that you are edgy and shoot film?
Not difficult with people chiming in on how long the tread is!...
The real question is, how the hell did this topic accumulate 400 posts? ...
So many great lines.
When anti-cropping knights meet pro-cropping Frenchmen:
Ha, ha."...English pig dogs..."
Schweinehund. Pretty bad in German.
The smart ones would. I was admonished in a professional nature photography symposium to take more verticals because the editors can never get enough of them. It’s also where I heard (from William Neill who shot 4x5 Velvia) that the person with the biggest chrome gets the sale. (Galen Rowell proved to be the exception)My understanding is that photographers would often submlt two pictures, one horizontal and the other in portrait format just in case it gets selected for the mag cover.
Looks more like 60x maybe a typoI don't think anyone is disputing that you sometimes win a prize when you go on a scavenger hunt. By the way, is that really the amount of grain you get when you enlarge 6x?
Penn and Avedon shot a lot of 2-1/4, that work would have to be cropped for covers, spreads and full pages. Covers bleed, too, so even if they shot 4x5 or 8x10, the image would have to be cropped. And it would be the art director or editor in most cases would would determine the cropping, certainly no-one in marketing.I sometimes think about Penn and Avedon. I have seen their work in shows at galleries and in museums, and in books, but I don't think I have seen their work as it appeared in Vogue, other than for a few covers.
"...English pig dogs..."
Schweinehund. Pretty bad in German.
I don't think anyone is disputing that you sometimes win a prize when you go on a scavenger hunt. By the way, is that really the amount of grain you get when you enlarge 6x?
There probably are publications where the photographer will know ahead of time what the crop will be - LP record album covers come to mind - but in most cases you are at the mercy of the art director or other person who actually makes the decision.
Actually I'm excatly talking about this. If you need to shoot to certain aspect ratio, then do it. Use the correct equipment for this. Use a mask on your camera or whatever takes you there. If you are pro you will visualize the magazine cover or spread during composition.
You forgot tears of desperation and disappointment.... Or is that just meJust look for the hard water marks, the fingerprint, and the scratches from when I dropped it in the bathtub trying to get it on the hanger to dry
I will share the album art when it is out, so keen to see it!
You forgot tears of desperation and disappointment.... Or is that just me
Not just you. I think the salt in my tears is what cases the hard water spots.
Seriously, the first time I pulled a strip of film out of the spiral after developing I was amazed that there were images. I hadn't developed film in nearly 40 years, so I was feeling really smug up until I fumbled the hanger trying to get it on the wire I'd strung in the bathroom. SO deflated. Couldn't I wait until after I'd at least gotten them dry and had a look at them? They were junk shots, nothing that mattered, but still it's like fate saying "no, sorry, you can't have a 100% win the first time around."
I didn't even bother to use the photoshops to take scratches out of the scans. Just told people "hah -- yeah, that's where I scuffed the film being stupid." Wish I could say that's the only time I'd done something silly like that, but such things sometimes happen.
Nobody cares what my photographs look like but me and a very few friends, and they know the difference between sharpness of focus or good composition and technical errors. Maybe it'd be nice if more people saw my photos printed, but for junk I post online... It's liberating, I do what I want.
Seriously, the first time I pulled a strip of film out of the spiral after developing I was amazed that there were images. I hadn't developed film in nearly 40 years, so I was feeling really smug up until I fumbled the hanger trying to get it on the wire I'd strung in the bathroom. SO deflated. Couldn't I wait until after I'd at least gotten them dry and had a look at them? They were junk shots, nothing that mattered, but still it's like fate saying "no, sorry, you can't have a 100% win the first time around."
Hah! Ditto - half the time, even my wife just has a cursory glance and goes "that's nice" and moves on. So, yeah, I do what I want (but even now I am at a cross roads, I need a new direction).Nobody cares what my photographs look like but me and a very few friends, and they know the difference between sharpness of focus or good composition and technical errors. Maybe it'd be nice if more people saw my photos printed, but for junk I post online... It's liberating, I do what I want.
Anyhow, aren't we supposed to be talking about cropping? I grew up on a farm. I know a bit about cropping.
I do what I want.
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