I could think.of nothing more boring than churning out straight grade 2 prints year in year out
The 135 format has been a problem for me for years and it because exacerbated when I built my darkroom. Thus my constant chanting about "Square being the perfect format." I also like the 4"x5" format, again because it is not that stretched out 135mm format that makes me crop and reduce the usable negative area.
At that point I didn't realize photography was about equipment and not about the reaction of common people to my prints
Sometimes I feel like it is more easier to crop from square because of the equal playground in both directions. We have discussed this before here but the aspect ratio of 6x7 is just so off. It is like a square in disquise. Or maybe it is just the midf**k of RB67s cropping lines..
We have discussed this before here but the aspect ratio of 6x7 is just so off. It is like a square in disquise. .
Aw man, I thought we were friends!
I like 6x7, but do need to crop it to square from time to time. It's a fun challenge for me though, and having fun is why I do it.
Thanks, and I think your opinion is fair btw. I can happily shoot with a square format camera all day without once thinking, gee I wish I had a 6x7 with me. There just isn't enough extra to make it noticeably different enough for those thoughts to crop up. But like any format, when I'm using 6x7 I'm trying to see the scenery that way, which I imagine a lot of us do.Well done composing those two. I started to feel a bit anxious already when my eyes analyzed the aspect ratio. Now looking at those photos it is easy to still claim that that format works only for certain scenes and 6x7 is probably very often cropped to other aspect ratios. However that might be the stength, plenty of space to crop and zoom.
I like the weird formats and would love to have a panoramic camera one day, despite the awful forced compositions those formats seem to encourage. I want to try!
Thanks, and I think your opinion is fair btw. I can happily shoot with a square format camera all day without once thinking, gee I wish I had a 6x7 with me. There just isn't enough extra to make it noticeably different enough for those thoughts to crop up. But like any format, when I'm using 6x7 I'm trying to see the scenery that way, which I imagine a lot of us do.
I like the weird formats and would love to have a panoramic camera one day, despite the awful forced compositions those formats seem to encourage. I want to try!
6x17 now we're talking. That's properly wide!That is why I built myself 6x17 camera. When I realized how bizarre it is, I couldn't resist. Without any decent viewfinder on it, the composition is a bit tricky to manage. And because I don't own 5x7 enlarger, all prints are done contact. So.. no cheat.. sorry, cropping available
Square is a great format and should never be cropped. But it's not the only format. 612 and 617 are mind blowing formats as well.Gee, I just never think about 6x7 when I am shooting square. When one is using the perfect format, there is no need to think about alternatives.
So I can use image-editing software now with your permission?Using film and a darkroom means one does not need to apologize for using image editing software.
You can crop contact prints. Easily done with either a mask or an Xacto knife.That is why I built myself 6x17 camera. When I realized how bizarre it is, I couldn't resist. Without any decent viewfinder on it, the composition is a bit tricky to manage. And because I don't own 5x7 enlarger, all prints are done contact. So.. no cheat.. sorry, cropping available
That is why I built myself 6x17 camera. When I realized how bizarre it is, I couldn't resist. Without any decent viewfinder on it, the composition is a bit tricky to manage. And because I don't own 5x7 enlarger, all prints are done contact. So.. no cheat.. sorry, cropping available
You can crop contact prints. Easily done with either a mask or an Xacto knife.
I'm sad that cliveh learns nothing from his time in the darkroom. I get lots of joy from the discoveries I make there.
I believe a lot of ex-spouses use scissors to crop their wedding photos.You can crop contact prints. Easily done with either a mask or an Xacto knife.
You wont learn to see in the darkroom.
Matt, I have learned a lot from working in the darkroom and the main thing I have learnt is that to provide consistency of vision you need to simplify your process between camera and process. Otherwise, camera format, aspect ratio, lens, film developer, print developer, printing paper, contrast grade, dodging and shading to name but a few, multiply the variables of your out come by a zillion times.
Somebody should have told that to Lorena Bobbitt.I believe a lot of ex-spouses use scissors to crop their wedding photos.
You can crop contact prints. Easily done with either a mask or an Xacto knife.
On certain occasions, I made a format mask out of coloured plastic (a damaged Wratten CC filter) as an overlay on the ground glass of my camera...
This.
If you constantly need to post-crop your photos, it means your original form factor isn't compatible what you prefer. For example darkroom paper might dictate your aspect ratio and your camera produces different ratio. Fix that. The sooner in the process you get things right, the more easier it is to accomplish your targets.
I can't blame you for not really knowing the rules of the trade: in publishing, between 80 to 90% was schot on colour slide film (the so called EKTA'S). Slides tend to represent exactly the camera format.
As a former art director, I have to tell you that no matter how the photo is composed, the art director/designer/photo editor will most likely crop it. For most assignments, an art director is present to approve of the shot anyway and will let the photographer know to allow for bleed or where copy might be placed. In today's digital world, there may be a file of the layout to superimpose on the image as it is made. There are practical factors, such as bleed amount, the masthead or logo, cover blurbs, bar codes for a cover, Interior spreads need to account for creep, bleed, copy placement. And of course the art director's taste. All or none of these factors may come into play and change at the last moment. Fashion (not catalog) work is possibly an exception because usually there is minimal or no copy at all, just a logo and maybe a tagline. Once the photo is in the hands of the client, unless you are a 4-star celebrity, you most likely won't have any say in the final product--probably won't even see it until it hits the street.Actually I'm excatly talking about this. If you need to shoot to certain aspect ratio, then do it. Use the correct equipment for this. Use a mask on your camera or whatever takes you there. If you are pro you will visualize the magazine cover or spread during composition.
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