Brian Stater
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Hello Everyone
I have recently returned to using a set of Ilford Multigrade filters that I bought in the mid-1990s. I am not getting the results I expected, finding myself printing at 0 or even 00 when I would have expected 2 or 2.5
Which makes me wonder....is it me that's degrading?.....or do these filters deteriorate over such a length of time?
As ever, all thoughts, info or advice would be most welcome.
Many thanks
Brian
I saw someone post a picture of a filter taken out of the plastic holder. The circle was clearly faded and the corners clearly darker. So they do change. There's really no reason to expect they wouldn't.
Edited to add https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/older-ilford-multigrade-filters-fading.177968/
But the shown examples had discoloured at the framed parts too, which led to quite a discussion...
They did change, but those are not the OP's filters. I wonder what those look like.The key point is: they did change.
Do they fade from exposure to light or other reasons like age? I only use the 00 and 5 filters, the rest are tucked away in a drawer.
The key point is: they did change.
Yes. Sometimes one does not see the forest for the trees...
Hello Everyone
I have recently returned to using a set of Ilford Multigrade filters that I bought in the mid-1990s. I am not getting the results I expected, finding myself printing at 0 or even 00 when I would have expected 2 or 2.5
Which makes me wonder....is it me that's degrading?.....or do these filters deteriorate over such a length of time?
As ever, all thoughts, info or advice would be most welcome.
Many thanks
Brian
Of course they fade. Ilford's answer is guardedly ambiguous. TIme itself in some theoretical sense might not be a factor, but in any practical sense, time is accompanied by repeated usage, issues with heat and UV, possibly mold and mildew, handling issues - various real-world variables. If you can find a late edition of Kodak's classic Wratten filter handook, they actually give fade rating for every single one of their own filters under three distinct categories of stress, whether by light or in storage. Less than ideal storage, too hot or humid, something will give out, just like any other dyed material. I don't know in what universe Ilford found an exemption to that.
My above lens ones faded just sitting in the packages between cardboard for some 10-15 years, in a dark basement. It was admittedly often damp too but the point is, I was NOT using them and they were not exposed to light at all.
It was probably the cardboard holders. ISTR some discoloration of them, and where else could it have come from?Mine faded patchily because the dyes in the gelatine layer leached into the card holder, however I hadn't used them for maybe 23 years, these were the filter drawer type. I'd switched to using an enlarger with a colour My below lens sets are fine, but only get rare use as I've been using a 10x8 enlarger with a colour head since abput 2004.
It's worth noting that since the introduction of Ilfospeed Multigrade Ilford have changed the spectral sensitivity of first the 2, and later the 3, the emulsions mixed to coat Mutigrade paper and Ilford also changed the filters. The latest Multigrade V paper is in fact the 9th or 10th version of Multigrade since 1940, if you don't count Warmtone or Cooltone.
Ian
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