I've done it once.
I've done it once.no frame numbers or anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think you're right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it was a mistake with the fix and developer....i used one instead of the other!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT wont happen again.....i will learn from this mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop bath is your friend in this circumstance!Ok, here’s a new one...
I was developing a roll of D100 in a Paterson tank today, all going really well processing in ID-11 1+1, until it came time to dump the developer and pour in the water stop bath.
....I peel the seal off the top of the tank to pour out the developer, dump the tank on it’s side to pour out the developer, and not only does the developer dump really quickly, but the inner lid slides out together with the film reel and film, which proceed to all dump into the sink. (Yup, the inner lid obviously wasn’t fully snapped closed, and yup, film is really weird & milky looking before fixing).
Thinking that I might be able to save it, I quickly slammed the reel back into the tank (upside down, it turned out), reattached the lid, firmly snapped it closed, pour in the water stop bath, and agitate the heck out of it before dumping the water stop and fixing the film normally.
I did get images that were actually pretty evenly developed, but with some slightly brown fog along one side of the film that lessens across the width of the images, presumably due to re-exposed halides at the end of development being somewhat reduced by developer that was still present in the emulsion. In retrospect it would likely have been better to skip the water stop bath and go directly to fixing the film, but I was slightly amazed that I got anything useful.
Anyway, new lesson learned - always check that the centre tank lid is securely fixed and snapped in position before starting any step of the process...especially before dumping developer!
Stop bath is your friend in this circumstance!
If your tank is a Paterson Super System 4, make sure that the glue used to hold the red ring is intact. Mine failed, and led to the same sort of incident. Stop bath saved part of the roll, and an application of new glue repaired the tank.
MORAL OF THE STORY.....pay more attention to what you're doing as i simply fixed before i developed!!!!!!! I'm gutted and sick to the stomach cos i KNOW i had better shots than on the DSLR.....I was seeing better pictures.....
I hereby claim the award for the dumbest person in the forum....can anyone top this???? c'mon...make me feel better!
Since I have a Paterson tank and may face your problem, what glue did you use?Yup - the glue is fine and the red ring is firmly secured - it was purely a matter of inattention/distraction/carelessness, but based upon your experience, I’ll watch to ensure the\ red ring remains fully secure over time.
Thanks Matt.
A generic version of "Crazy Glue".Since I have a Paterson tank and may face your problem, what glue did you use?
Thanks! I assume that cleaning and proper prep is essential??A generic version of "Crazy Glue".
The ring itself doesn't supply any of the light trap, it just gives some place for the light trap to click into, so the precision required isn't high.
I actually had another tank split and form a crack for an inch or so down the side. I used the same glue to fix that by applying it liberally on the inside of the crack and then using air pressure to drive the glue into the crack. Some clear packing tape on the outside then held the crack closed while the glue set.
Both tanks - which I bought used and had clearly been used extensively before me - have been trouble free for years since then.
Cleaning certainly, but there wasn't a lot of preparation required. Cyanoacrylate glues work really well with the materials that modern Paterson tanks are constructed of.Thanks! I assume that cleaning and proper prep is essential??
Trivia fact - cyanoacrylate glues were re-discovered in the labs of Eastman Kodak, and originally sold under the name Eastman #910.
Eastman #910 was first marketed in 1958."Re-discovered"? Cyanoacrylate was discovered more or less by accident in the 1960s, and developed as a field suture for the Vietnam conflict. It was only after that that it was marketed (as Eastman 910) as a general purpose adhesive, along with closely related methacrylates found in thread lockers.
Maybe, but it clearly "stuck"Okay, apparently version I'd heard had been, um, edited a little...
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