Digital Lens on Film Camera , Film lens on Digital Camera

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

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If you have a digital lens and if you use it at film camera , result will be bad. Why ? Because digital lens is optimized to to send light rays through the glass infrared mirror.

If you attach film lens in to digital camera , glass infrared window will decrease the mtf %20 and increase the spherical aberration.

Thats why , glassless BW Leica M9 is the best for accepting old lenses.

Mustafa Umut Sarac
Istanbul

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[benjiboy]

I don't worry about such matters because I only use Canon FD cameras and lenses.

 

[removed account4]

i use nikon lenses on a dig camera, both digital and analog and never noticed a difference

 

[analoguey]

Oh Hogwash!
Also, the comparison is what between 2 or 3 lenses? Every system currently has at least twice that number. One could spend a lifetime comparing, if there was to be a "generalisation".

Also, What you are suggesting is very local to cameras without AA filters? (is it?) If so - wouldn't it mean that all current MFDBs attached to older cameras (V series, etc.,) would be out of whack?

One of the better things about the Nikon system (SLR, not mirrorless) is that you have compatibility for most things right back from somewhere in the 60s to now (at least mechanically).
I have used a current Dx "G" lens on a Mechanical Nikon and images came out fine - incidentally I shot them all at f22 cos it's a "Gelded" lens.
Have also used the 50 f1.4 AI on then current D90 and it sparkles.

 

[snapguy]

Nikon

But Nikon cameras and Nikon lenses. Step up to the good stuff.

 

[removed account4]

meh,, nikon seems to work fine for me

tomAtoe-- tomahtoe

btw ...

the arguments that the plane of focus will be off
is the same stuff that i always heard and was warned about
when i was told NOT TO use my normal graflex 23 roll film adapter
on the back of my graflex series d slr.
so i put it on ( used black masking tape ) and took a few rolls, wide open
with my tessar 21cm f3.8 ... focus sharp as a tack.
people just like to claim stuff and once in a while i turns out not to be true...

 

[ambaker]

The whole thing seems a bit off to me. Adapters vary in equality, and fit.

At the same time is every sensor, from a given camera maker, equipped with the same thickness and quality of glass in the stack?

Did Nikon and Canon lock themselves into a set filter thickness/composition for all time and eternity?

It would be interesting to know if filter stack thickness has changed as sensors have evolved?

Then again, what about emulsion thickness? Which is optimal?

Or, are the differences too small to matter?

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

If you attach film lens in to digital camera , glass infrared window will decrease the mtf %20 and increase the spherical aberration.

Erm... what??
More likely (only as a possibility) it is chromatic aberration, not spherical. But infrared?? I don't think so.
No, I don't believe the "decrease in MTF of 20%". How is this qualified, and in what specific circumstances?
Articles like this are very generalised, vague and wordy. This should be better researched, published, subject to peer review, analysis and proof, and then cited. Some of us are not easily taken in by bald statements. And is it important? If proven, it might be. For what it's worth, all of my analogue lenses are totally functional on digital bodies (old and newest) without problem because they are from the manufacturer, not a third party — and that is where many lenses do give problems with bodies, especially digital (the marques do not licence metering and AF algorithms to third parties). And no, I don't have a digital to take those lenses because I do not use digital for my production (and never will).

 

[Jeff Kubach]

I don't worry about such matters because I only use Canon FD cameras and lenses.

Same here.

Jeff

 

[fotch]

i use nikon lenses on a dig camera, both digital and analog and never noticed a difference

Ditto, never a problem.

 

[Terry Christian]

Okay, so the planes of focus could theoretically be off. But there's this thing called depth of field. We're all not using f/ <1 lenses for the OMGbokeh.

 

[Dan Fromm]

[...] read http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2014/06/sensor-stack-thickness-when-does-it-matter

[...] Who here is going to use lenses optimized for micro 4/3 digital cameras on film cameras? And who here shoots wide open all the time?

 

[wiltw]

So every lens made by Nikon and Canon to fit their film cameras since the 1990s is NOT well optimized for use on Nikon or Canon digital cameras...so both manufacturers will have to formulate a digital line of lenses which is well differentiated from their film line of lenses, contrary to all their past claims (and everybody else's) that the same lens can be used on film and digital cameras!

Wow, I perceive a massive increase in the bottom line of both companies once this revealing information gets widespread by them...their new lines of lenses (digital only) will go thru the roof in sales!!!

(not) Maybe a massive plunge in their stock value (and the whole industry) due to the massive hoax that has been perpetuated for over ten years.

 

[k.hendrik]

I use my Mamiya RZ lenses on a Nikon D200:
http://www.dpug.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=1910&catid=member&imageuser=5886

 

[naeroscatu]

I even attached my 50mm Zeiss Distagon from the Hasselblad to the Nikon D600 and it works beautifully. Yes, the focus works from very close to infinity. I would not carry that combo with me on a trip but I made the experiment just because I had the adaptor

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

What was that old adage? In theory bumble bees cannot fly. But they go ahead and do anyway..

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

I even attached my 50mm Zeiss Distagon from the Hasselblad to the Nikon D600 and it works beautifully. Yes, the focus works from very close to infinity. I would not carry that combo with me on a trip but I made the experiment just because I had the adaptor

I have a Hasselblad to Contax/Yashica adapter. Also have a C/Y to NEX adapter. Stacking both I've used all my Hasselblad lenses on my NEX-6 and see no issues...

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

I'm assuming the "digital" designation of most lenses is mostly for marketing purposes. The one exception I can think of is wide lenses with a longer lens-to-sensor (or film) distance. This straightens the light path... to which digital sensors are more sensitive than film. I'd think normal and long apo or nearly apo lenses are effectively no different digital vs analog.

 

[analoguey]

I use my Mamiya RZ lenses on a Nikon D200:
http://www.dpug.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=1910&catid=member&imageuser=5886

Thats nice!
How did you mount? Fotodiox adapter?

 

[Steve Smith]

What was that old adage? In theory bumble bees cannot fly.

The scientists change their mind. Apparently they can fly now!


Steve.

 

[Athiril]

Sensor stack size does matter, and I do use film lenses on my GH2 (micro four thirds), most lenses I use perform well, though who knows if they are performing as well as they can be. But most good lenses I have I can get to clearly out resolve the sensor which is over 130 lp/mm, and start mosaicing/aliasing badly on lines with a higher frequency than the sensor limit.

 

[digital&film]

I have used Soviet Era lenses, Carl Zeiss Jena, Nikon, Olympus, and Takumar lenses with digital camera (m4/3, APS-C) and I have gotten great results.

My experiences have been to use Haze -or- Polarizers and a good quality adapter like Novoflex, and do test shots before.

GX1 with Jupiter-9 85mm f2

 

[dehk]

My observations are: Put a "junk" lens on digital it makes it look decent. Put a "junk" lens on a film camera it's horrible.