Different Gold Toners

Can anyone tell me the difference between these toners:

Fotospeed Gold Toner

Formulary Gold 231

Formular Nelson Gold


I am interested in a gold toner and these seem to be my choices. Are there any differences in the three or are they all just standard gold chloride toners? My main papers used are Oriental Seagull RC 2 and 3, Agfa Multicontrast Classic RC and Fiber, and Azo grade 2. Thanks for any info!

This may be a repeat. I sent a reply but it has gotten lost somewhere.

I have used Fotospeed and Nelson's Gold.

What are you trying to achieve would be my first question? For archival only I would use the Fotospeed as it is pretty much a typical standard gold toner. It does cool and will shift to a stronger blue with time and paper change.

Nelson's Gold is part of the Sepia class of toners altho, it is warmer . Runs to brown rather than yellow. THe results are better when used at 110 to 120 degrees. Paper type also effects the results. Warm tone paper shifts greatly. It is also best to use a fixer with hardner after toning.
Some of the older papers did wonderful things with this toner. Very interesting and dramatic splits would occur. Yet to have this happen with the newer version of papers.

Have not tried to 231.

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Just looking for an archival toner with a new color. I also like to split tone with sepia and selenium, and I think gold would make a nice addtion to experiment with. Thanks!

If you want to work with split toning, try GP-1 after Selenium. For more specifics check Jonathan Baileys website. He gives specific formua for using this combination. His work is wonderful, using this combo along with a diane camera. Worked with him with his workshop in AUgust and it was a fun experience . Food was great, group fun and information rewarding.