Did you ever have any thing stolen?

Steve Smith · Jan 28, 2009

AdClem said:
I didn't acquire my medium format gear new, but I know it came from a good home. It was previously owned by a police force scene of crimes unit, and I got it as a job lot at auction.

My RB67 came from West Yorkshire police photographic department. Some of it had never been used and all of it had been very well looked after.

Steve.

eddym · Jan 28, 2009

Steve Smith said:
Is that a real word? In the UK we say burgled.

It's usually the US version which is shortened rather than our version.

Steve.

According to Webster, not only is "burglarize" a word, but so is "burglarious," and even better, "burglariously"! In fact, whoever broke into our house did it burglariously!

Steve Smith · Jan 28, 2009

eddym said:
burglariously

What a fantastic word. I must try to use it one day.

I bet it's not in the Oxford English Dictionary though.

Steve.

AutumnJazz · Jan 28, 2009

All of you guys getting stuff replaced with insurance...is it being replaced by homeowner's insurance?

removed account4 · Jan 28, 2009

nope none of my stuff could be replaced through insurace.
my deductible for the bike was more than i had ( poor college student )
i did have work stolen from me by a big company, but they covered their tracks
well enough that lawyers could help (even though i had emails &C that declared full admission of guilt ) ..

oh well, its just lessons learned ... and i am sure i have a lot more lessons to learn down the road ...

Larry Bullis · Jan 28, 2009

Steve Smith said:
What a fantastic word. I must try to use it one day.

I bet it's not in the Oxford English Dictionary though.

Steve.

It is. I just looked it up on my wife-the-poet's OED unabridged CD. I added the underlined bold.
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burgle, v.

("b3;g(@)l) [A back-formation from burglar n., of very recent appearance, though English law-Latin (1354) had a verb burgulQre of same meaning.]

a. intr. To follow the occupation of a burglar. b. trans. To break feloniously into the house of; to steal or rob burglariously.

"1872 M. Collins Pr. Clarice I. iv. 63 The burglar who attempted to enter that room would never burgle again." "1874 Standard 14 Nov. 3 New words with which the American vocabulary has lately been enriched; to burgle, meaning to injure a person by breaking into his or her house." "1884 Blackw. Mag. 513/2, I burgled myself again in the night."

1884
1874
1872

Hence "burgled ppl. a., and "burgling vbl. n. and ppl. a.

"1880 Daily News 28 Oct. 5/3 Treachery seems to have been developed even in burgling circles." "1884 C. Dickens Dict. Lond. 28/3 A gentleman of the burgling persuasion." "1885 Graphic 14 Feb. 151/1 After the burgling is completed." "1886 Phelps Burglars in Par. vii. 117 Oh, said the mistress of the burgled cottage+to the policeman."

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Steve Smith · Jan 29, 2009

I keep an old Oxford dictionary here at work and much to my surprise, I have just found burglarious in that. not burglarized though (or burglarised as it would be spelled in Britain if it originated here).

That is obviously a past tense word as is burgled which we use. Is burgled used in the US? And is it in Webster's dictionary?

Steve.

Stephen Frizza · Jan 29, 2009

An X-pan camera at a police function, one week after purchasing it. :-(

Tony Egan · Jan 29, 2009

My first ever camera an Olympus Trip was stolen from my car on a Friday before a long weekend in 1981. It was in a bag in the back of my Honda wagon parked on observatory hill in Sydney. I mean, it had a blanket over it! Thieves aren't that smart are they? Anyway, had to drive several hundred miles that winter weekend with a broken rear window and also missing my favourite woollen jumper (sweater).

There was a positive I suppose. That theft got me researching my first "real" SLR camera which ended up being an OM2n leading me down this long slippery path. I eventually sold the OM2n after 25 years but still have an OM1n for using all those lovely Zuiko lenses from time to time.

Larry Bullis · Jan 29, 2009

Steve Smith said:
I keep an old Oxford dictionary here at work and much to my surprise, I have just found burglarious in that. not burglarized though (or burglarised as it would be spelled in Britain if it originated here).

That is obviously a past tense word as is burgled which we use. Is burgled used in the US? And is it in Webster's dictionary?

Steve.

Burgle is in the American Heritage Dictionary (we still use the really great first edition), as is burglarious. The AHD traces it back to latin "burgulator", which the OED seems to clarify as Latin used in English law, not necessarily from Rome -- "burgul".

The OED citation (the OED unabridged is the authoritative reference for professional scholars, and is not always easy for us semi-literate types to understand) dates its first appearance to 1354. I like to use the OED but am left somewhat confused by it because I don't know all the abbreviations. For my wife it has enormous value - once in a while.

I love that phrase from 1884 -- "A gentleman of the burgling persuasion." This thread is about the consequences of the actions performed by such gentelmen.

Steve Smith · Jan 29, 2009

bowzart said:
The AHD traces it back to latin "burgulator", which the OED seems to clarify as Latin used in English law.

That makes sense. Thanks to the battle of Hastings in 1066 and subsequent events, a lot of 'legal speak' in the UK became a mixture of English and Norman French - hence the latin connections.

Interesting account of the development of English 'legal speak' here: http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...gested+replacements.&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk

Steve.

Larry Bullis · Jan 29, 2009

Steve Smith said:
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Interesting account of the development of English 'legal speak' here: http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...gested+replacements.&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk

Steve.

Thanks! Really interesting.

In the opening example about the sale of the orange, though, the author omitted something. Today, that text would precede a disclaimer, which would be at least twice as long!

VaryaV · Jan 29, 2009

I've never heard "burgle" used - but I do love "burglarious" - must adopt...... you guys are hilarious..!

Thanks for sharing.

Steve Smith · Jan 29, 2009

This was my favourite bit:

The Parliament of the United Kingdom tried 3 times to change the language of the law by legislation.

The first attempt was the Statute of Pleading in 1362. It decried the use of French (although was written in French).

VaryaV said:
I've never heard "burgle" used.

Burgle as a word is very common in the UK as is burgled. Burglarised is never used. I can't imagine burglarious or burglariously is ever used in the US or the UK (except in forum threads veering off on tangents).

EDIT: Notice how I used an English version of a word we don't use? Should have written burglarized!

Steve.

VaryaV · Jan 29, 2009

Steve Smith said:
(except in forum threads veering off on tangents).

Steve.

I am a big fan of tangents myself and see the occasional need to veer............

subject for a new thread perhaps?......

Larry Bullis · Jan 30, 2009

Without tangents, it gets pretty dry. Bringing it back is the test of one's skill as a facilitator. Your turn!

Curt · Jan 30, 2009

I prefer to Vector rather than Tangent.

eddym · Jan 30, 2009

I enjoy just Wandering, myself...

jamesgignac · Jan 30, 2009

Yes, actually, just last night...my Bronica SQ-Ai system - the got the body, 220 film back, 80mm lens, motor grip, waist level viewfinder AND my metered prism finder.

I saw this thread earlier but didn't have a story to tell, now I do...here it goes:

I went out with my girlfriend to shoot a relatively local electronic band called 'Boytech' at a club where I knew about 70% of the people - it's a small place and the crowd wasn't large so I felt pretty comfortable having my equipment there. After a small row with my lady friend over how I wasn't paying enough attention to her I chased after her outside where she was trying to hail a cab - I was going to either wait with her to grab a cab or until she was ready to go back inside. I had left my camera bag on a table by the 'dj booth' - my camera was assembled sitting next to it. After about 15 minutes of pacing outside in the cold I convinced her to come back to the bar where I found my bag but no camera - they had even reached in my bag to grab the metered prism viewfinder as well...they left the 150mm lens and 120 film back that was tucked away in another compartment.

Well I talked to everyone I could who worked there but they all just shrugged their shoulders. I obviously had a very good look around to see if anyone was carrying that hard-to-conceal piece of equipment but couldn't find it. I received much compassion and helpful words from those around me but left with my head still in the 'what just happened?' state.

In terms of new equipment it's still to early to tell...I'll either buy back my SQ-Ai (with the 50-100mm zoom instead of the 80mm) or...well...I don't know. I was just beginning to make a reputation for myself documenting the small, independent art and music scene here in London, Ontario ~ and one of the worst parts of all of this was that I had shot most of the roll that was in the camera...never going to see how those turned out.

MikeSeb · Jan 30, 2009

@Derek, sounds like your ladyfriend needs replacement along with your other gear!

VaryaV · Jan 30, 2009

With all this burglariousness going on - I'm getting a bit paranoid. I have two very vicious labs for security who would rather wag their tails at another possible "play mate" than bite their butts.

Gosh Derek - that is horrible news. I hope you recover it.

John Koehrer · Jan 30, 2009

I had an acquaintance in Chicago who bought an old oak telephone booth & put it in the doorway of his bedroom. Hinged the back panel & kept it closed with a screen door hook.
When he went out of town for a few days his apartment was burgled. They got the TV & stereo, but none of the camera equipment that was in plain view on his bed.

jamesgignac · Jan 30, 2009

Thanks VaryaV...at this point I'm just confused about what to do...but this has certainly been on of those incidents that test one's resolve...I'm not about to give up my love because some doorknob thought it would be fun to run off with a camera that they probably know nothing about.

In all honesty I just hope it's taken care of wherever it ends up...I wouldn't want to see another Bronica fall off the face of the earth.

eddym · Jan 30, 2009

VaryaV said:
With all this burglariousness going on - I'm getting a bit paranoid.

Yes, I'm shocked at all the burglaration going on!!

(that should be good for a few more pages of dictionary searches...)

AutumnJazz · Jan 30, 2009

John Koehrer said:
I had an acquaintance in Chicago who bought an old oak telephone booth & put it in the doorway of his bedroom. Hinged the back panel & kept it closed with a screen door hook.
When he went out of town for a few days his apartment was burgled. They got the TV & stereo, but none of the camera equipment that was in plain view on his bed.

...That is awesome. Anyone know where I can find a stereotypically British phone booth with a false back that doubles as a door?

Did you ever have any thing stolen?

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