Derev Pan Film.

[bsdunek]

The Film Photography Project has introduced a new line of films called Derev, supposedly made in the Ukraine. Made me wonder who makes it. On the way, I found a listing of films available and who makes them on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photographic_films
Turns out, according to the chart, two film companies are in the Ukraine, Kono!, which I have never heard of, and Svema, which I always thought was Russian.
Anyway, it's and interesting chart, and thought I'd share it in case some haven't seen it.

 

[Peter Schrager]

shoot some and get back to me
I choose to support the major players if for no other reason than to keep them going...

 

[AgX]

Turns out, according to the chart, two film companies are in the Ukraine, Kono!, which I have never heard of, and Svema, which I always thought was Russian.

-) I guess part of the problem is, that typically in the USA everything soviet was considered russian.
But maybe you just mix up Slavich with Svema.

-) Kono! is not a manufacturer in the true sense, but what I call a "manipulator".
They are not a ukranian but an austrian firm.


So now I take your report on a "new" film with a lot of salt...

 

[jvo]

russia also thinks the ukarine is part of russia!!!

 

[bedrof]

The Film Photography Project has introduced a new line of films called Derev, supposedly made in the Ukraine. Made me wonder who makes it. On the way, I found a listing of films available and who makes them on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photographic_films
Turns out, according to the chart, two film companies are in the Ukraine, Kono!, which I have never heard of, and Svema, which I always thought was Russian.
Anyway, it's and interesting chart, and thought I'd share it in case some haven't seen it.

AFAIK the Svema factory is now mostly ruins. There is a company called Astrum, but they cut and pack tech film originated from AGFA and Kodak.

 

[pentaxuser]

russia also thinks the ukarine is part of russia!!!

It is not alone. |Unfortunately Great Britain used to think the same about The Republic of Ireland, India, Malta, Cyprus etc.

pentaxuser

 

[Paul Verizzo]

I saw that on FPP a few days ago. And this is going to find a niche in between how many other non-Kodak, non-Ilford films?

I cannot for the life of me why anyone would buy, let alone use, a completely unknown film from a backwater company. Meaning, no influence on the world photo scene. I would be more likely to be interested in Chinese film. At least the Chinese are hugely competent in technology and constantly improve things. No offense, but the labs of the world are not filled with Ukrainians.

It reminds me of the glorious days after the collapse of East Germany, all the Orwo and other films flooding the market here. Cheap and fun. But Kodak or Ilford? Dream on.

Even the old Eastern Bloc Foma still isn't up to consistent Western standards. A few reports of film quality issues, even though ISO 9001. And Fomapan 100 has the grain of the ancient Kodak XX 250. Why bother? (Unless wanting grain, of course.)

 

[Ten301]

The problem I have with FPP, while I wouldn't go so far as to call them dishonest, is they certainly want the consumer to believe things that are not factual. If you read the wording on their website, you'll believe Svema lives, happily going full steam ahead manufacturing their own emulsions in Ukraine. That Svema Color 125 is some mysterious, exotic, hitherto unknown Eastern European C41 film when in reality it is believed to be very domestic Kodak Aerocolor, not mysterious at all. It's just respooled by Astrum in Ukraine, FPP buys a few bulk rolls from Astrum and respools onto 35mm cassettes.

As for their newest Derev Pan marketing nonsense, if you look at the Wikipedia article the OP links, Tasma in Russia offers film in ISO 100, 200 and 400 with specs that sound suspiciously like what FPP describes for Derev Pan. True, Russia and Ukraine are different countries (well, maybe Vlad doesn't think so), but given FPP's willingness to play loose with the facts, it wouldn't surprise me if the films are the same.

 

[Paul Verizzo]

Emulsive's Every Film Stock Made Today list has interesting facts (some conjecture) on the Russian/Ukranian film people. Pretty much what you say. Astrum is noted for having bought the Svema equipment and name although they apparently do not market under their own name.

https://emulsive.org/reviews/film-r...oday-part-6-shanghai-to-yodica#svema-foto-100

The pictures for those films show FPP boxes and list them as a source.

An aside, back on the Shanghai films, they make Fuji's color paper! Can't be all bad.