Dedicated ECNII Processing Services?

B&Wpositive · Oct 31, 2015

Years ago, I was looking into finding labs that offered ECNII processing for 35mm roll film. Nothing ever came of it. I have had a test roll sitting for 5 years waiting to be processed but nowhere to send it. Are there labs in the US offering this? ECN opens up many more emulsion possibilities, particularly now that the number of C-41 types has diminished over time...if only there are labs that do it in short lengths for still photography.

Mick Fagan · Oct 31, 2015

I'm assuming you are referring to ECN 2 film processing? If so, perhaps you may wish to change the thread title to reflect this and possibly get more people to know what you are really asking about.

Mick.

B&Wpositive · Oct 31, 2015

Mick Fagan said:
I'm assuming you are referring to ECN 2 film processing? If so, perhaps you may wish to change the thread title to reflect this and possibly get more people to know what you are really asking about.

Mick.

You mean change the title from ECNII to ECN-2?
The edit button is gone for some reason.
You don't think people will know what I meant? I really thought it was "II" but I looked it up and I was wrong.

cmacd123 · Oct 31, 2015

AS PE has mentioned here, most film processing amchines used for Movies are high speed, and the labs tend to use splices that would mess up several frames at each end of a still roll. Several small Independant labs used to handle stills as a way to increse their business, Folks Like RGB in Hollywood, but many of them have closed.

I think the last one standing was Dale Labs in Florida, and I almost missed out, sending them some rolls and finding a note in the return package informing me that the service was being discontinued at the end of THAT month.

B&Wpositive · Oct 31, 2015

cmacd123 said:
AS PE has mentioned here, most film processing amchines used for Movies are high speed, and the labs tend to use splices that would mess up several frames at each end of a still roll. Several small Independant labs used to handle stills as a way to increse their business, Folks Like RGB in Hollywood, but many of them have closed.

I think the last one standing was Dale Labs in Florida, and I almost missed out, sending them some rolls and finding a note in the return package informing me that the service was being discontinued at the end of THAT month.

If that's so, the only way might be labs that soup it in C-41. Of course, as PE has mentioned, the contrast can be off if that is done.

Xmas · Nov 1, 2015

A c41 lab won't be set up to deal with REMJET...

B&Wpositive · Nov 1, 2015

Xmas said:
A c41 lab won't be set up to deal with REMJET...

Just found this place: https://www.littlefilmlab.com/

Their site says they can process it. I'm not sure if they do so in ECN-2 or C-41.

Anyone used them?

MattKing · Nov 1, 2015

B&Wpositive said:
Just found this place: https://www.littlefilmlab.com/

Their site says they can process it. I'm not sure if they do so in ECN-2 or C-41.

Anyone used them?

Their price list indicates that it is cross-processed in C-41. So colour will be incorrect, and contrast will be low.

cmacd123 · Nov 1, 2015

also a question of stability when processed in C-41

Note that even processed right, the Movie film is intended to have lower contrast. this was to allow the original workflow where the Camera Negative was printed to a master positive (on special Stock) and the printed again to a working internegative, and finally to the release print that would be sent out to the theatre. Since each stage can build contrast and loose range the film was designed to have spare room on the contrast scale.

This may not be an issue of you don't optical print on regular colour paper, but no one on AUPG uses Computers to bypass photographic steps.

B&Wpositive · Nov 1, 2015

cmacd123 said:
also a question of stability when processed in C-41

Note that even processed right, the Movie film is intended to have lower contrast. this was to allow the original workflow where the Camera Negative was printed to a master positive (on special Stock) and the printed again to a working internegative, and finally to the release print that would be sent out to the theatre. Since each stage can build contrast and loose range the film was designed to have spare room on the contrast scale.

This may not be an issue of you don't optical print on regular colour paper, but no one on AUPG uses Computers to bypass photographic steps.

I believe ECN-2 negs aren't very stable over time even when processed in ECN-2 chemistry. I've seen them shift toward red.

B&Wpositive · Nov 1, 2015

Some phone calls might be in order tomorrow.

I also found The Camerashop:

http://www.thecamerashop.com/downloads/Miscellaneous_Film_Processing_Prices_06-01-15.pdf

Note ECN-2 film processing is also listed here. Anyone have experience with this company?

cmacd123 · Nov 1, 2015

B&Wpositive said:
I believe ECN-2 negs aren't very stable over time even when processed in ECN-2 chemistry. I've seen them shift toward red.

There was a version of the Print film that did have terrible stability. Giveing Pink images after only 5 years. The current version is supposed to be good for achive use. (2383/3383 if I remember correctly )

Most of the versions of the negative are Not too bad if processed and stored correctly, but of course any colour film may need corection yeras later.

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