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Hello everyone,

I tried my hand at making D23 at home, and tried to mix a small volume of it (250ml stock solution). In 125ml of water at 125 degrees Fahrenheit, I mixed a pinch of sodium sulfite first, added the metol, then added the rest of the sodium sulfite. Shortly after dissolving the sodium sulfite a precipitated started to form. Note that I haven't added the rest of the water yet to top it up to 250ml of water.
Is this still usable if I filter out the precipitate?

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Did you use distilled water? If not, then water hardness could be the problem. In any case, top up to the desired volume, stir and then filter through a coffee filter, it's perfectly usable.
 
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Did you use distilled water? If not, then water hardness could be the problem. In any case, top up to the desired volume, stir and then filter through a coffee filter, it's perfectly usable.
No I had just used my tap water.
 

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Try distilled next time, or try to source some sodium hexametaphosphate. 1 to 2 g/l hexametaphosphate is a reasonable quantity to add to D23 and several other developers. It's what Kodak used back then, but was later replaced by other agents.
 
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Did you use distilled water? If not, then water hardness could be the problem. In any case, top up to the desired volume, stir and then filter through a coffee filter, it's perfectly usable.
When I topped it up all the precipitate went away.... huh.
 

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When I topped it up all the precipitate went away.... huh.
Well, in this case you didn't have enough water to get everything to dissolve at this temperature. Sounds a little strange considering sodium sulfite's solubility, but we don't know how low the temperature got. What happened was a case of recrystallization.
 

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By the way, it's better to start with about 3/4 of the volume of water needed.
 
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Remember: If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. :smile:
I think that'll come in handy when I end up mixing and experimenting with more powder developers :smile:
I've only used liquid concentrate up until now
 

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Don't use tap water to make D-23, and start with 2/3 of the total volume of water.
 
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