d-76 packaging - wrong amount?

bdial · Jun 27, 2007

'I wanna go back to Andorra...Can anyone remind me...

words by Malvina Reynolds, music by Pete Seeger; copyright 1962 Brio Music, renewed 1990. a.k.a. "I Want to Go to Andorra!" Pete Seeger's recording of this song was issued on a CD in 2003 by the Andorran government. Also on the CD is a 1996 speech by the Andorran Foreign Minister given on the occasion of his signing the nuclear non-proliferation treaty at the U. S. State Department in Washington, D.C. http://www.wku.edu/~smithch/MALVINA/mr005.htm

Not a Pete Seeger tune I'm familiar with, but Google is awesome

z-man · Jun 27, 2007

a biira is a beer is a biir

Ole said:
Totally off topic, but...

One of my "favorite ounces" is the Ethiopian "Birr". It's defined as the weigth of one Maria-Theresien-Taler, of 1780 date - or 28.0668 g. "Birr" is also the monetary unit of Ethiopia. A "birra" however, is a small bottle of beer (at least in Eritrea).

ole(accent)! ole

so you were hanging with amhara?

munchin on angira?

had a girlfriend a long time ago-last name of selasie-yeah her uncles name was haylie

but amhara and eritria like oil and water you know-highlands lookin down on lowlanders

did you get shots of gandar?

the beauty is an ache in my heart like a long ago dream with echos of the drums from the copt churches throbing like a old tooth-ache and the sweet heat of midday dust whirls in a khat nod

thanx for stirring up the memories-they had slipped away

vaya con dios

Ole · Jun 27, 2007

I haven't been to Eritrea since 1993, I'm afraid. In Asmara I met people from most of the 9 peoples of Eritrea, including Amhara.

While I was there I lived mostly on kofi (best in the world), birra, indjera and spaghetti.

gainer · Jun 27, 2007

Thank goodness for the conversion tables in the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics. In my other lives as Aeronautical Engineer, Human Factors Engineer, oboist I had occasion to use several differnt sets of units and to relate one to another. Fortunately, I didn't have to remember that stuff.

I made my oboe reeds so many millimeters long and so many wide. Most vernier calipers have both English and Metric scales. I could always trade measurements with an Englishman by looking at the calipers.

I've seen a lot of things change and a lot of things that should have changed. The French people are going to celebrate my 80th birthday soon without knowing it. They think it is Bastille Day.

z-man · Jun 27, 2007

inspector gadget is 80?!?

gainer said:
Thank goodness for the conversion tables in the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics. In my other lives as Aeronautical Engineer, Human Factors Engineer, oboist I had occasion to use several differnt sets of units and to relate one to another. Fortunately, I didn't have to remember that stuff.

I made my oboe reeds so many millimeters long and so many wide. Most vernier calipers have both English and Metric scales. I could always trade measurements with an Englishman by looking at the calipers.

I've seen a lot of things change and a lot of things that should have changed. The French people are going to celebrate my 80th birthday soon without knowing it. They think it is Bastille Day.

gadget gainer you are one illusive octagenarian-i guess you made it so far by staying in motion-way to go elder brother

i allways celebrated bastille day any way but now i will do my best to do you justice

but seriously now- i have been looking for your articles re coffee-vit c

i need to try to get continuous tone out of freestyle line film(aphs) using the above-i used to use dilute paper dev with other line films plus a pre-flash in camera but i have never used coffee-vit c for anything

by the way i can get sodium/mag ascorbate easier her in nyc than ascorbic acid pwder-so i should use the buffered form-right?

also want the article on using anti-freeze to make non-oxidizing vit c syrup-can you hook me up please?

oboe players are a singular breed-you have to do your reeds from scratch -did you ever play the north african mizmar or any other eastern double reed? or the indian shenai?

so we will all be looking forward to your big eight oh-can i bring my guillitine? i have a certain small tree in mind for triming

vaya con dios

copake_ham · Jun 27, 2007

See, you go to an "off-site" for one day and all hell breaks loose. Just like when I missed the "penis battle"!

Well a quick peruse of this thread showed it got to the point where Roger was answering his own posts. Once again!

As to beer, if you like the good stuff, you find the good stuff. If you just want something to guzzle - that option also exists. I've seen some awful industrial suds water being sent over to NYC from the exalted Europa figuring we'll buy anything which has "Imported" on the label.

We over here have got nothing on Europe - they are quite capable of brewing some of the most tasteless swill imaginable!

So, anyone want to go out now and get a "real" beer?

BTW: Ever notice how the "beer" threads always come around here during the Summer months in the Northern Hemisphere? Perhaps our OZ and NZ friends could start arguing over their "Reds" as they sip some Cabernet while sitting around the "winter fire"?

jim appleyard · Jun 27, 2007

Roger Hicks said:
Dear Jim,

Oh, dear...

I tried some once (just a can or two) because my wife Frances (silver wedding last Sunday) was born in Rochester and brought up in Hilton. It didn't seem bad, but from from what you say, it's lucky I didn't try more.

Doesn't Genesee also do a brew named after an improbable number of horses? Or is that another upstate brewery? (I met Frances in Los Angeles -- she moved as soon as she graduated from high school, so such details are understandably hazy).

Cheers,

Roger

Dear Roger,

Thanks for bringing back the memory. There is/was indeed another Genesee brew called "12 Horse Ale". Pretty good stuff, I thought. I had forgotten all about it. I'll have to make a run to the beverage center.

I live in Glens Falls, NY. Not too awfully far from Rochester and Genesee is a popular brand 'round here.

Doesn't Kodak dump their effluent in the Gensee River? I always suspected that's where the Genesee brewery got its water... but then what about the good tasting 12 Horse? Maybe I shouldn't ask!

z-man · Jun 28, 2007

KODAK EFFLUENT AS KEY SECRET BEER INGREDIANT?!?

jim appleyard said:
Dear Roger,

Thanks for bringing back the memory. There is/was indeed another Genesee brew called "12 Horse Ale". Pretty good stuff, I thought. I had forgotten all about it. I'll have to make a run to the beverage center.

I live in Glens Falls, NY. Not too awfully far from Rochester and Genesee is a popular brand 'round here.

Doesn't Kodak dump their effluent in the Gensee River? I always suspected that's where the Genesee brewery got its water... but then what about the good tasting 12 Horse? Maybe I shouldn't ask!

I THINK YOU GOT IT!!!

but seriously now jim , i think that you should try my favorite beer: "pacifico claro"

it is imported from mexico by a co in texas and is readily available here in the city

"cerveceria del pacifico, s.a. de c.v." is a brewery of considerable substance IN MY OPINION

this is what all these boutique micro brews are aiming at and it is priced the same as the mass produced swill

it is yeast rich but not as overloaded as "peroni"-italian beer is too 'winey' for me but it certanly is nutricious

a patient perusal of the lable will show that the colors and symbolism betray a connection to the orders of the 'navigators', not to mention the obvious 'tarot' symbolism

enjoy, but DON'T DRINK THE DEVELOPER!!!

vaya con dios

radiantdarkroom · Jun 28, 2007

Well simply I can tell that you measured by volume and not weight, huge difference. If you measured by weight your ounces would match up with what the package described very closely. Usually there is a measurement in grams too for us linear guys that like the 1:9 1:7 mixes. When it's a 1:16 or or 1:31 that's when imperial and US Ounces really help in mixing.

jim appleyard · Jun 28, 2007

z-man said:
I THINK YOU GOT IT!!!

but seriously now jim , i think that you should try my favorite beer: "pacifico claro"

I'll have to look for it. Thanks!

Edwardv · Jun 28, 2007

You guys make my head spin!!!!!!

I like using the metric system for measuring fluids. Makes life much easier.

gainer · Jun 29, 2007

Roger Hicks said:
Estimado Hermano,

As for the Shadow, I wish! That or a Brough or a Hesketh (I've ridden both but never a Vinnie). All I have now is a 77/78 R100RS, twin-plugged, gas-flowed and with the 'neck' in the oilways widened to allow 7500-8000 rpm. This gives me about the same bhp at the rear wheel (70+) as the bike had at the crankshaft when new. It's still just about good for over 130 mph/210 km/h, two up, which is OK by me.

Roger

My last bike was an '81 R100RT. I used to ride it to work, and to orchestra concerts with my wife and my oboe and English horn on the back. The other orchestra members took a while to get used to the sight of us peeling off our coveralls to reveal our formal dress. I can no longer get my leg over it due to arthritis, and my wife is, without a doubt, in Heaven since 1999 laughing at me.

gainer · Jun 29, 2007

I should add that there were 2 cameras in the saddle bags, a Leica M2 2 stroke for my wife and a Canon AE1 for me. I could not use mine during the concert, but I got some pictures in the Green Room afterward, and at rehearsals.

z-man · Jun 29, 2007

MUSICIAN-PHOTO-BIKERS-YES

gainer said:
I should add that there were 2 cameras in the saddle bags, a Leica M2 2 stroke for my wife and a Canon AE1 for me. I could not use mine during the concert, but I got some pictures in the Green Room afterward, and at rehearsals.

gadget

the fine tradition of musican-photographers-

what were the names of the violin duo that had so much to do with the introduction of kodachrome? and of course saint ansel

as a musician-artist/photographer-biker now the air gets rarified

the british vertical twins i favored were 2 wheel vibrators-my ziess lenses were luckily allways tightened up for free and i was happy to retighten my twinlenses while i was retightening every nut on the bikes every weekend

since i usually was playing jazz or dance music i got no strange looks when i pulled up at those venues

BUT pulling up to play a clasical guitar gig on my stock 1947 slap shift knuckle head girder-fork model el 1000cc harley did get me some very strange looks-

somewhat like you my completely arthritic spine makes it very difficult to get on a bike now and my neck problems can realy get on my nerves when the bumps come up to many to fast

IT WAS SO MUCH FUN

vaya con dios

waitew · Jun 30, 2007

Well,the Imperial gallon does make more sense than the old English wine/US gallon,but the fact remains that the Imperial gallon has only existed since 1824 & therefore the 'American gallon' (by default..because we are the only ones still using it) is (in a way) more 'traditional'!I also prefer a quart (32 oz) to a queen.

gainer · Jun 30, 2007

CRC handbook has them all with conversion factors.

I suppose you fellows have figured out that my wife's camera was a Leica M3 2 stroke. We got it in a pawn shop with clip-on meter and leather case for $125 US. The front element looked as if it had been cleaned with steel wool. We sent it to the factory and got it back like new for the magnificent sum of $78.

Roger Hicks · Jun 30, 2007

waitew said:
Well,the Imperial gallon does make more sense than the old English wine/US gallon,but the fact remains that the Imperial gallon has only existed since 1824 & therefore the 'American gallon' (by default..because we are the only ones still using it) is (in a way) more 'traditional'!I also prefer a quart (32 oz) to a queen.

The imperial gallon was only standardized in 1824, but may have existed before that, as 'gallons' were sometimes local measure, and varied according to what was being sold: the ale gallon (4.62 l), the wine gallon (3.79 l), the corn gallon (4.4 l) particularly. It is true that the American gallon was standardized earlier, but the new, standardized Imperial gallon was a simple-to-replicate 10 lb of distilled water -- rather like the litre being 1 kg of water (from where they may have stolen the idea) whereas the American gallon is not, as far as I know (and I could easily be wrong), based on anything except tradition.

Cheers,

Roger

bdial · Jun 30, 2007

Roger Hicks said:
...whereas the American gallon is not, as far as I know (and I could easily be wrong), based on anything except tradition...

Arbitariness, an American tradition!

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