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Bill troop pointed out that the quantity of Potassium Carbonate should be 19.5g of the anhydrous as there is no such thing as the monohydrate. FDC 2020 p 74 (left out the sodium hydroxide by mistake).
 
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Bill troop pointed out that the quantity of Potassium Carbonate should be 19.5g of the anhydrous as there is no such thing as the monohydrate. FDC 2020 p 74 (left out the sodium hydroxide by mistake).

Alan, Mr. Caesar's FX-21 contains Sodium Hydroxide, the link to the formula you provided omits it. Which is correct?
 

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What you want is FX-21.

All weights in grammes per litre. For T-Max 400, use 1+9 for 11 minutes. For slower films (FP4+, T-Max 100, Delta 100), dilute more (1+14). For Pan-F, dilute 1+19, try 8 minutes to start.

For 15x concentrate:

Component
Amount in grammes
Metol​
2.1495​
Sodium Sulfite​
30.0​
Hydroquinone​
1.0995​
Phenidone​
0.1245​
Sodium Metabisulfite​
6.15​
Potassium Carbonate (monohydrated)​
22.035​
Sodium Bicarbonate​
3.9​
Sodium Citrate​
3.9​
Potassium Iodide​
0.0825​
Potassium Bromide​
0.33​
Sodium Hydroxide​
5.0​
I believe this is correct except it should read 19.5g potassium carbonate anhydrous.
For a full explanation it seems to be needed to read right through the link given in post 51.
 
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What you want is FX-21.

All weights in grammes per litre. For T-Max 400, use 1+9 for 11 minutes. For slower films (FP4+, T-Max 100, Delta 100), dilute more (1+14). For Pan-F, dilute 1+19, try 8 minutes to start.

For 15x concentrate:

Component
Amount in grammes
Metol​
2.1495​
Sodium Sulfite​
30.0​
Hydroquinone​
1.0995​
Phenidone​
0.1245​
Sodium Metabisulfite​
6.15​
Potassium Carbonate (monohydrated)​
22.035​
Sodium Bicarbonate​
3.9​
Sodium Citrate​
3.9​
Potassium Iodide​
0.0825​
Potassium Bromide​
0.33​
Sodium Hydroxide​
5.0​

Pretty sure that almost no one here has an analytical balance or scale with that kind of resolution.

Pretty sure its unnecessary.

Even the jeweler's scales available for $20 online that claim .01g precision are unlikely to actually be accurate at that fine a degree of measurement. It's like adding 1+1 and claiming the answer is 2.000000000
 
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I believe this is correct except it should read 19.5g potassium carbonate anhydrous.
For a full explanation it seems to be needed to read right through the link given in post 51.

And no Sodium Hydroxide... Is that correct, Alan?
 
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Not correct.
The formula linked in post 53 includes 5g sodium hydroxide which must be added.
Also the 22.035 g potassium carbonate monohydrate should be replaced by 19.5 g potassium carbonate anhydrous.

Thank you.
 

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There is on line an errata for the 2nd edition, in which the omission of NaOH in that FX-21 formula is the only item. I can't find a link to it at the moment for some reason.
 
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The reference in the errata to
i-camera-forum.com
should have been
l-camera-forum.com
 

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What you want is FX-21.

All weights in grammes per litre. For T-Max 400, use 1+9 for 11 minutes. For slower films (FP4+, T-Max 100, Delta 100), dilute more (1+14). For Pan-F, dilute 1+19, try 8 minutes to start.

For 15x concentrate:

Component
Amount in grammes
Metol​
2.1495​
Sodium Sulfite​
30.0​
Hydroquinone​
1.0995​
Phenidone​
0.1245​
Sodium Metabisulfite​
6.15​
Potassium Carbonate (monohydrated)​
22.035​
Sodium Bicarbonate​
3.9​
Sodium Citrate​
3.9​
Potassium Iodide​
0.0825​
Potassium Bromide​
0.33​
Sodium Hydroxide​
5.0​

Thanks for posting this formula -- I'd not found it previously.
 
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