Current Lith Paper/Chem with Minimal Warm Tone

[cbphoto]

I'm thinking of doing some lith printing again, after a few years of not even thinking about it. Of the currently available materials in the US (Freestyle, B&H, etc), which paper and chemicals combinations produce the least amount of color in the final print, without getting into toning? I love the results I got before, but I can do without the strong sepia tone. The now discontinued Slavich paper wasn't bad in Arista chemistry, but I'd love to go even colder if it is possible. Thanks!

 

[gzinsel]

Which slavich paper? that was discontinued?

 

[mr rusty]

In my experience slavich in moersh easylith is fairly cold (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Slavich unibrom is getting a little tricky to get. Silverprint here in the UK are discontinuing, I guess because they can't get any margin on it. It appears to still be available from macodirect, although I haven't yet ordered from there.

 

[cbphoto]

Looks like Freestyle is listing it as no long manufactured, but it can still be ordered from Europe through B&H. Kind of annoying. I can't view your picture, as I'm not a subscriber.

 

[Marco Buonocore]

I mostly use older paper stock to lith print with. With that said, my experience is that if I want to reduce some of the warmth or colour, I will selenium tone it. With very few exceptions, I find that selenium drains a lot of the colour from lith prints. Personally, I find this to be a detriment, but if that's the look you're going for, you might wish to try it.

 

[Rich Ullsmith]

Play around with A and B. Less exposure and more activator (B) will result in a harder print.

 

[DKSEA]

One place you might look is the Lith Printing group on Facebook. There are 1254 members including Wolfgang Moersch and Tim Rudman. There a a lot of people posting their prints. https://www.facebook.com/groups/315339078572684/

 

[thefizz]

Slavich Unibrom is still available at www.thephotoshop.ie and we also have remaining stock of the Imago Bromoil paper which liths well with little colour.

 

[cbphoto]

Thanks, all! I'll look into these suggestions.

 

[Mark Fisher]

Freestyle Arista might be worth trying if you can deal with the very grainy appearance. But even that is a bit warm in the highlights. Fresh, fairly concentrated developer minimizes color in my experience. The Arista liquid has more muted colors, but it is a formaldehyde developer which I prefer to avoid.
I know you don't want to tone, but that is the only real way to be cold toned lith prints. I've done it with a light gold toning to cool the highlights and some selenium to cool the shadows. Do a web image search on "Tim Rudman gold selenium lith" and you'll see what is possible. Gold to completion would work, but make the highlights too cool for my taste. I suspect iron blue toner would also work,but I'm not sure about the control.