Crystal Archive vs Supra Endura

Matt5791 · Aug 9, 2009

railwayman3 said:
I believe most, if not all, Kodak paper is made here in England, whereas all films are coated in US (but finished in Mexico).

So you buy "our" paper, we buy "your" film. International trade.

Interestingly, the most recent stock we have just had delivered says.....Made in Brazil!

As regards Fuji CA, this is no longer avilable in sheet form, certainly in the UK.........

Matt

Tom Kershaw · Aug 9, 2009

The film is 'Made in Brazil'?

Tom

Photo Engineer · Aug 9, 2009

AFAIK, Kodak closed the plant in Brazil. And, when operational, it made only B&W paper. I was told directly that all Endura was made in Harrow.

PE

Tom Kershaw · Aug 9, 2009

PE,

The Endura paper I have in stock, purchased Autumn 2008 is 'Made in England' - Is the Harrow plant dedicated to paper production?

Tom

pentaxuser · Aug 9, 2009

Matt5791 said:
As regards Fuji CA, this is no longer avilable in sheet form, certainly in the UK.........

Matt

If I have understood it correctly, this ends Fuji's desire to cater for the amateur who needs sheet paper. It worryingly says a lot about what Fuji think of the sales to the amateur market i.e. not economically viable.

It's my impression and it's not based on any figures I have, that Fuji has almost all of the mini-lab markets Maybe it's just as well that Kodak doesn't have a substantial portion of the mini-lab market in the U.K. otherwise both might abandon the amateur market.

Given the size of the amateur market for RA4 sheets, it remains a concern as to how long Kodak sheet paper might be available and/or what the price might be if there is no competition.

pentaxuser

Photo Engineer · Aug 9, 2009

Tom Kershaw said:
PE,

The Endura paper I have in stock, purchased Autumn 2008 is 'Made in England' - Is the Harrow plant dedicated to paper production?

Tom

Tom;

I am not sure what all they produce. I do know that they produce all Endura paper up to 20x40" and 40x80" and 40" rolls. Larger sizes are made at the Colorado plant with the bigger coating machine.

PE

Matt5791 · Aug 10, 2009

Photo Engineer said:
AFAIK, Kodak closed the plant in Brazil. And, when operational, it made only B&W paper. I was told directly that all Endura was made in Harrow.

PE

The plot thickens.

All I can say is the stock we have just taken in would appear to be completely fresh stock - the 8x10" is in these new 50 sheet boxes (the 100 sheet boxes have been doscontinued, as has the Lustre surface in sheet).

On closer examination it says "Finished in Brazil", although the boxes no longer say Made in England - although I guess the paper was and then cut down in Brazil.

So it's made in harrow, shipped to Brazil for confectioning, then distributed worldwide?

Tom Kershaw · Aug 10, 2009

An odd situation Matt. My paper just has 'Made in England' printed on the label, no 'Finished in Brazil'. Perhaps Kodak Harrow could provide some illumination?

Tom

gr82bart · Aug 10, 2009

I have prints on both Fuji CA and and Kodak Endura Metallic. I did a side by side comp, and I love Kodak Endura Metallic so much that I only send my images to a lab for print that has this specific paper. If they don't have it, they don't get my business now. Metallic is awesome in every way to my tastes - its bright lustre illumines the image amazingly throughout the entire colour gamut - as if it were captured on polished stainless steel.

Regards, Art.

nickandre · Aug 14, 2009

My 8x10 paper and 11x14 endura paper were made in two different countries...

Crystal Archive vs Supra Endura

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