Cross processing Ektar 100 ?

[trondsi]

Have you tried it? Some photos online show a strong orange cast (which is what I would expect) while others do not. Any idea as to why?

 

[Photo Engineer]

The images should also be low in contrast.

Can you refer us to some examples? The orange can be removed in scanning.

PE

 

[trondsi]

I found this via an old thread on apug

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hanspandex/6191363216/in/photostream/

 

[Photo Engineer]

If it is C41 processed in E6, then the image was highly manipulated.

PE

 

[trondsi]

Here's the original thread.

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

 

[Photo Engineer]

There are others who have done this including myself. The orange mask does NOT vanish, and the images are quite low in contrast with low Dmax compared to a real slide film.

I have done both types of cross processes and many that you have never thought about.

I am duplicating this post in both threads in answer to an impossible result! Something else has been done.

Try it yourself and see. I will be glad to retract if I am wrong, but my results differ.

PE

 

[trondsi]

I believe you. Wow, this is very odd.

 

[KidA]

I recently ran a Kodak Gold 200 in E6 and I would describe the results exactly as this.

There are others who have done this including myself. The orange mask does NOT vanish, and the images are quite low in contrast with low Dmax compared to a real slide film.PE

 

[Athiril]

There was one random film I had that didn't have much of a mask.

Most are low contrast, though I've had several before that don't look like orange slides, but more blueish.

I cross processed some Superia X-TRA 800 once, not using the standard first dev, results were extremely blue.

Also did some Reala once, that actually looked really good (also not standard first dev), the highlights/clear areas just weren't neutral, tinted by the base colour. I've also had the base colour come out different to what it does in standard C-41.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Color negative films are coupler limited to give low contrast, while reversal films are coupler excess to give high contrast.

PE

 

[trondsi]

There was one random film I had that didn't have much of a mask.

Most are low contrast, though I've had several before that don't look like orange slides, but more blueish.

I cross processed some Superia X-TRA 800 once, not using the standard first dev, results were extremely blue.

Also did some Reala once, that actually looked really good (also not standard first dev), the highlights/clear areas just weren't neutral, tinted by the base colour. I've also had the base colour come out different to what it does in standard C-41.

Are these results consistent for each kind of film?

 

[Athiril]

No, they are consistent for each specific film, but differ film to film, and then will differ again depending if you use the normal E-6 first developer or not.

This is what Ektar looks like cross processed in normal E-6, just a bit darker than it appears in the image (mobile phone photo). It doesn't have a strong cast, just looks dark in person except the higher exposed images. Looked kinda interesting, but I don't see much of a point in doing it.

 

[Athiril]

If you're looking for something visually interesting to experiment with, then something which I've tried once which is exceptionally striking is processing E-6, but developing the colour portion twice - you need to bleach off the negative with a b&w reversal bleach prior to colour development, clear the bleach and wash, colour develop and bleach as normal, then clear the bleach and wash, and drop it back in the colour dev stage again and process as normal from there. Contrast and saturation become extremely excessive.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Your result is what I would expect. Low contrast and orange whites.

I still prefer E6 in C41 for interesting images.

PE

 

[trondsi]

Interesting! Thanks for the info folks!

 

[trondsi]

If you're looking for something visually interesting to experiment with, then something which I've tried once which is exceptionally striking is processing E-6, but developing the colour portion twice - you need to bleach off the negative with a b&w reversal bleach prior to colour development, clear the bleach and wash, colour develop and bleach as normal, then clear the bleach and wash, and drop it back in the colour dev stage again and process as normal from there. Contrast and saturation become extremely excessive.

Interesting. Do you have any examples of this?

 

[Athiril]

Interesting. Do you have any examples of this?

Can't represent it properly on a screen since it has increased dMax and contrast