Cross processing at my local lab

ektachrome · Mar 26, 2012

Hello all
The other day, I went into my local 1 hour lab and asked if they could cross process some kodak ebx in c41. They said that i cannot do this, as they cannot guarantee pictures and it will muck their developer up. i asked whether they could do it at the end of the day when the chems are replaced but they said they do not replace them.
Please help
What should i do
Regards
Ektachrome

CGW · Mar 26, 2012

This sort of thing usually spooks mini-lab operators who somehow think it will muck up their already stale chemistry. If you can, find a pro lab who will do it. Most will, though some might charge a bit extra.

Photo Engineer · Mar 26, 2012

It does not mess the chemistry up at all. They are badly misinformed. It is unlikely that you can fix that though.

PE

McFortner · Mar 29, 2012

I have a roll of 120 Kodak Ektachrome E100 I just finished shooting today and was wondering if it was OK to cross process at home. Thanks for the info PE, I'll go ahead and develop it as soon as I finish this roll of 127 b/w I have developing.

ektachrome · Apr 15, 2012

127! Where do you get that from?!

Ektachrome:confused:

bdial · Apr 15, 2012

Efke makes some 127 films

hrst · Apr 15, 2012

Kodak has a document for minilab owners that describes that cross processing slide film will not ruin their chemicals, and shows how much can be processed without adjusting replenishment rates. I can't find it at the Kodak website right now but if you find it, they might believe it.

foc · Apr 16, 2012

I have processed many E6 films in C41 in a Fuji leadercard processor and never had any problems.

By the way the chemicals in minilab processor are replenished and not changed at the end of the day.

I think that the reason a lot of minilabs won't do crossprocessing is that they have a policy of not processing non C41 films incase a mistake is made and litigation could follow.

paul_c5x4 · Apr 16, 2012

If it is 35mm, pop the film in to a C-41 canister, for 120, respool on to C41 backing paper. When the lab says "it came out all funny" tell them it was a roll off ebay

wogster · Apr 16, 2012

foc said:
I have processed many E6 films in C41 in a Fuji leadercard processor and never had any problems.

By the way the chemicals in minilab processor are replenished and not changed at the end of the day.

I think that the reason a lot of minilabs won't do crossprocessing is that they have a policy of not processing non C41 films incase a mistake is made and litigation could follow.

You could be right about litigation, although if all you do is C41, it would be easy enough to have a sign-off the customer signs off that they have been told the lab only does C41 and that the customer absolves the lab of responsibility. Well that would probably work in civilized countries like Canada and Ireland, probably wouldn't work in the United States where if you trip over your own feet and hurt yourself you don't call for a doctor, but call for a lawyer instead.

Then again, most people don't read the fine manual, they read some crap off the Internet that tells them the chemistry will get all messed up, they will believe that even if the machine and chemicals manufacturer says it will not.

Photo Engineer · Apr 16, 2012

Civilized? Canada? Don't go to a hockey game there!

Ireland? Civilized? Ahhhh well, what can I say?

PE

wogster · Apr 16, 2012

Photo Engineer said:
Civilized? Canada? Don't go to a hockey game there!

Ireland? Civilized? Ahhhh well, what can I say?

PE

Canada is perfectly civilized, we don't kill our criminals and we aren't slaves to our health care providers. I missed the on my initial message Nice to see your still around PE, was winter in Rochester as nice as it was here???

Photo Engineer · Apr 16, 2012

Winter was "civilized" here!

You missed the earlier posts about this very topic. I don't' want to air them again, as even though they were all in good fun, the thread was closed. So lets get on with the show.

Cross processing is not a problem nor should there be any liability on the part of the processor for this. Since there is no problem, there is no liability.

OTOH, do NOT EVER try to put ECN through a minilab. You will ruin the process and any film that goes through it until it is taken apart, cleaned, and re-charged with chemistry.

PE

MattKing · Apr 17, 2012

Photo Engineer said:
OTOH, do NOT EVER try to put ECN through a minilab. You will ruin the process and any film that goes through it until it is taken apart, cleaned, and re-charged with chemistry.

PE

Or for that matter, Kodachrome.

wogster · Apr 17, 2012

MattKing said:
Or for that matter, Kodachrome.

In other words, anything with a Rem-jet backing.....

foc · Apr 17, 2012

Ireland? Civilized? Ahhhh well, what can I say?

PE
Well the good part of Ireland is !!!! (hope I haven't opened a can of worms)

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