(Cross)Process E-4 film in C-41 chemicals?

Dirb9

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Has anyone tried (cross) processing E-4 films in C-41 chemicals? I grabbed a roll of exposed Ektachrome (Says ektachrome type B, found it listed in an old dataguide as process E-4) film at the PSPCS show yesterday, mostly for the spool, but I figured I could try and process it, I just set up a water bath in the past couple weeks and have had good luck with regular C-41 film (Thanks bvy for the info on C-41!). I know that I'd have to run the process at maybe 70-75 degrees with the concomitant increase in developing time to avoid the emulsion softening, but would I still get a somewhat usable image? Or is it unlikely enough to work that if I want the images on the film I should just go and process in HC-110b? I figure the film is old enough that I don't really care about accurate color/it's not going to be accurate anyways.
 

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The E4 process was at 85 degF with a prehardener, but the C41 process is at 100F. You will severely reticulate your film at best. It can be done either at 85F with a prehardener or at lower temps with other precautions.

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Okay, thank you, I appreciate the information. I'll stick with black and white.
 

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I've done it twice now. Interesting to try, but not something I would do regularly.

Somewhat bizarre and unpredictable color shifts.

120 example below "Under a Dusty Rose Sky" :


 

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I've done it twice now. Interesting to try, but not something I would do regularly.

Somewhat bizarre and unpredictable color shifts.

120 example below "Under a Dusty Rose Sky" :


I like the shot but it looks like the color shift is minimal and could be pretty well cancelled out with a bit more work. Details?
 

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I've done it twice now. Interesting to try, but not something I would do regularly.

Somewhat bizarre and unpredictable color shifts.

120 example below "Under a Dusty Rose Sky" :



Looks good, Daria!!
Really good.

Which film was it?
 

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I like the shot but it looks like the color shift is minimal and could be pretty well cancelled out with a bit more work. Details?

Yes, I know I could play around with the sliders in Photoshop/Gimp and make it look more normal, but, strange as it may seem, I like most of the effects of it. It's not something I would do everyday but for once every few years I can appreciate it.

Looks good, Daria!!

Jeez, I'm never gonna live that down! At least somebody gets it.

Which film was it?

It was several years ago and probably Provia. It was the first obvious 120 slide film that I saw in the rack at the local photo shop (Rockbrook) at the time. It is not Velvia for sure.
 
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