COPYRIGHT - Does anyone still stamp their photos on the back??

Kino

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 20, 2006
Messages
7,602
Location
Orange, Virginia
Format
Multi Format
A number of illustrators and graphic designers have successfully sued the GAP, a major retailer, for copyright infringement.

And their legal budget was...? I doubt any one of us on this site could afford their legal bills or would even attempt to do so.

Because... you don't always win on just one courtroom visit.
 

Pieter12

Member
Joined
Aug 20, 2017
Messages
7,495
Location
Magrathean's computer
Format
Super8
And their legal budget was...? I doubt any one of us on this site could afford their legal bills or would even attempt to do so.

Because... you don't always win on just one courtroom visit.

These were not big-time or well-known artists. That’s why the GAP thought they could get away with it. Perhaps the artists had some pro bono legal help.
 

MattKing

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Apr 24, 2005
Messages
51,947
Location
Delta, BC Canada
Format
Medium Format
The US has an expedited and relatively lower cost system for enforcing statutory (meaning relatively low) damages for copyright infringement. Copyright registration is required.
Most jurisdictions don't offer that, nor do they offer a registry.
 
OP
OP

Rob Skeoch

Advertiser
Advertiser
Joined
Apr 25, 2005
Messages
1,340
Location
Grand Valley, Ontario
Format
35mm RF
I think I'll stamp the prints, in case 'whoever' wants to reach me down the road, at least they'll know who took the photo. Not so much for legal protection but to provide a courtesy credit.
 

BobUK

Member
Joined
Oct 13, 2021
Messages
494
Location
England, UK
Format
Medium Format
I do not want to divert this thread, so I will just mention a quirky copyright situation for creators of Australian art, paintings, prints, photographs, sculptures etc. over the value of 1000 Australian Dollars.
Apparently something like 5% of the value at a later resale is given to the artist. So they not only profit from the original sale of the item, but get a payment when the purchaser subsequently resells the item.
I cannot recall how many resales are involved or for how many years it enforceable , but it is a nice little pension for artists.

Any one interested can easily find the full details of the Australian Copyright and Resale Laws online.
 

Duceman

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 17, 2009
Messages
660
Location
Home
Format
Multi Format
At least in the U.S., marking an image/print with a copyright notice essentially eliminates the "innocent infringer" defense.
 

BrianShaw

Member
Joined
Nov 30, 2005
Messages
16,339
Location
La-la-land
Format
Multi Format
The US has an expedited and relatively lower cost system for enforcing statutory (meaning relatively low) damages for copyright infringement. Copyright registration is required.
Most jurisdictions don't offer that, nor do they offer a registry.

Have you read any credible reports of this new system being effectively used?
 

MattKing

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Apr 24, 2005
Messages
51,947
Location
Delta, BC Canada
Format
Medium Format
Have you read any credible reports of this new system being effectively used?

I don't know that it is all that new.
All I've seen a lot of are recommendations to people that they register, because that permits access to the remedy.
 

BobUK

Member
Joined
Oct 13, 2021
Messages
494
Location
England, UK
Format
Medium Format
When I used to submit photographs to magazines for publication, I would attach a typed paper strip to the back of the print with technical details, names and location of the print.
As they were intended for publication soon, and not works of art to be stored for posterity I had no qualms about rubber stamping the reverse of the actual print with a rubber address stamp and a separate copyright logo.

That was a good few years back.
Assuming that magazines still accept paper photographs and they haven't gone completely digital what would be an acceptable format for an ownership stamp and caption information?
 

Pieter12

Member
Joined
Aug 20, 2017
Messages
7,495
Location
Magrathean's computer
Format
Super8
What you did seems fine, but I think everything is digital. Author, copyright and caption can all be imbedded in the metadata.
 

BrianShaw

Member
Joined
Nov 30, 2005
Messages
16,339
Location
La-la-land
Format
Multi Format
The US has an expedited and relatively lower cost system for enforcing statutory (meaning relatively low) damages for copyright infringement. Copyright registration is required.
Most jurisdictions don't offer that, nor do they offer a registry.

I don't know that it is all that new.
All I've seen a lot of are recommendations to people that they register, because that permits access to the remedy.
You are correct, not as new as I remembered - initiated about 2011 and enacted as CASE Act in 2020; time sure does fly. There are more recent expedited processes, like small claims expedited registration, 37 CFR § 221.2, from about 2021 that seem to facilitate that process. The recommendation to register images has been a recommendation for a very long time. But new or not, the question I asked remains a mystery to me. I've not heard of anyone using that expedited process, but I'm sure that there must be users. It would be interesting to know if it really is either expedited or effective. It should, especially because the requirement for images-in-question to be registered takes a lot of the cat-fight out of the process.

It surprises me that other juristictions don't have a way to register copyrights. The US isn't generally that much more progressive than the rest of the universe.
 
Last edited:

RalphLambrecht

Subscriber
Joined
Sep 19, 2003
Messages
14,563
Location
K,Germany
Format
Medium Format

I stamp my framed photographs on the back. For lose FBprints it may be better to use an embossed logo but I hate to damage prints.
 
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…