Constant development

MattKing

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1) With almost no exceptions, I only use rotary agitation development of film when I am also using replenished developer;
2) Part of the reason I use a full tank, is that when using replenished developer, there is no economic downside to using a full tank. With replenishment, you use/discard/replenish the same amount for each roll, irrespective of how full the tank is;
3) If you vary the volume of replenished developer in the tank, it changes how much oxidation of developer happens in the tank, which in turn means that replenishment amounts will need to vary, which in turn means that to ensure consistency you will need to employ additional process monitoring steps and tools - such as Control strips and densitometers - which I don't have or want to use for black and white film development;
4) JOBO doesn't recommend any particular volume of developer. It only advises what minimum amount is needed to ensure film gets fully exposed to developer. Other than some concerns about excess weight straining the machines, there is nothing from JOBO that tells you not to use more. Of course, if you use considerably too much, it will leak out when the tank gets turned on its side;
Why would I try using less than a full tank of developer, when it doesn't cost any more to use the full tank, and when it takes one less important variable out of the consistency equation?
I happily use half tanks for stop bath, 1st fixer, 2nd fixer and then HCA. Their activity doesn't vary importantly due to oxidation, and in essence, each step is done to completion, rather than to a ideally consistent mid-point.
When I use other, non-replenished developers, I usually use them diluted, one shot and with normal inversion agitation. In those relatively infrequent occasions, I use the amount of developer necessary to cover the reels, plus a bit. The effects of oxidation are relatively minor when you use one-shot, diluted developer this way. And with one shot use, you don't encounter any of the consistency concerns that re-use brings rise to.
 

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all that matters is that it works for you, and constant agitation is a recommended method by almost all Jobo users. You are not alone!
 

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Happens that agitation schemes that modifies the contrast is a myth: it's not that effective.
 

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Maybe I missed it, but don't see anything in that link that speaks to that, perhaps provide a link directly to that demonstration.

Sorry, Azriel Knight has shut off his Youtube channel.
 

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Thanks Matt I understand what it is you do now My only concern was whether you had found a seríous flaw in rotary processing unless a full tank was used each time

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Happens that agitation schemes that modifies the contrast is a myth: it's not that effective.

Youtube, schmoo tube, it is a fact that agitation affects contrast.

@Dave Lusby is correct here when using the word "affects".
However, the amount it affects contrast is relatively difficult to predict, so it is much more effective to standardize agitation on something practical for the user, and then use the much more predictable variables of time and temperature to control contrast.
 

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What would be the effect of continuous agitation of sheet film in a tray versus my intermittent 5sec/30sec agitation in the SP445 tank, both being developed for the same 'N' development time that I'm using in the tank. I'm going to have to make identical exposures and just do it. I immediately think that in the tray the time would have to be adjusted downward to match the sheet coming from the tank because development activity in the tray never has a chance to subside where more silver is going to be deposited, at least that's what it seems like.
 
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