Cleaning Film Before Developing

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How might I clean exposed film before developing it? To make a long story short, I got fingerprints on the emulsion, and just noticed that this caused uneven development on the last film I developed. (This "alternative process" requires that I handle the film to place it in the camera; I'll use gloves next time.) The film is Acros 100. Thanks.
 

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Just process the film. I do not think that cleaning will make a difference.
 

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I am not sure about this so let others confirm this but you may try washing with photoflow solution or isopropyle alcohol (isopropanol) after loading in the tank.

I photoflow has stabilisers in it (?) so that might affect unexposed film. But IPA should be safe if it's lab grade or reagent grade.
 

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Kodak says to use 98% isopropyl alcohol for cleaning negatives (fingerprints, etc.). A) I have no clue if that could affect the undeveloped and unfixed emulsion, and B) 98% isopropyl alcohol is not readily avilable (Walgreens only has 91% as the purest, but you can special order it).
 

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Seems to be a perfect time to start using a pre-soak, if you aren't already doing so.

In addition, if you have a selection of developer dilutions available to you, I would suggest more dilute developer. All that early soaking should help clean up the situation.
 

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Matt King speaks for me too. I wouldn't be fooling around before development. Just take the lesson to handle film better in the future. Put me down in the pre-soak column. And side-benefit is that it makes sure the tank and reel are already at the planned developer temperature. Pouring 68 degree developer in a 66 degree tank is a sure disaster.

Presoaking is bad and normally not necessary try alcohol to remove the grease from finger prints a water presoak might not work.
 

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Xmas,
I think your "blanket statement" about a presoak being bad is misleading. There are some developers that require a presoak and some that don't. In my experience I have "NEVER" found a presoak harmful with any of the developers I use. Whether it's needed or not is the question that always seems to pop-up. John W
 
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Presoaking is bad and normally not necessary try alcohol to remove the grease from finger prints a water presoak might not work.

Well, pre-soaking may not be necessary in many cases, but it is certainly not "bad" in any sense of the word. Even Ilford clarified their position on not recommending a pre-soak. They said that they don't recommend it because it's not needed, but it won't have any negative effect if you decide to pre-soak anyway.

For many applications, a pre-soak is indispensable: before developing batches of sheet film in trays to prevent the sheets from sticking to each other, when using SLIMT or any other pre-treatment before developing, to bring Jobo and other large tanks to processing temperature before developing, etc.

@OP,
If you think oil from your fingers is preventing development (i.e., if the fingerprints on the developed negatives are lighter in density), then a pre-soak in water (a rather long one, I would imagine) may help, but I tend to agree with Xmas about trying alcohol. I've never tried using alcohol as a pre-soak, but see no reason not to give it a try; it will certainly remove the oil from the surface of the negative before development. You may have to follow an alcohol soak with a water soak. You'll have to do the experiments.

If, however, the film emulsion was damaged by handling or exposure to finger oil, then there's nothing a pre-soak will do to help.

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Doremus
 

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There are vinyl gloves that may come in handy to avoid fingerprints. I use them all the time when disassembling old cameras.
 

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Nitrile gloves
 

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I've read that a 2% solution of sodium sulphite as a pre-soak helps remove the anti-halation layer, so perhaps it would also help remove any fingerprints left on the emulsion side.
 
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