CineStill 800

thuggins · Mar 15, 2018

I've been looking at this film and am confused at the designation X-Pro. I assume they call it this as it is normally meant for ECN-2 but can be cross processed in C-41 as the remjet is removed.

Since this was originally a movie film, does it have the orange mask? Has anyone tried processing it in E-6 chemistry?

Ko.Fe. · Mar 15, 2018

I have cine films processed at home in C-41 and ECN-2 kits. But my E-6 kit is too precious to waste it for it.
Cine films gives wonky colors anyway.

twelvetone12 · Mar 15, 2018

It has the orange mask, so I'm not sure how good it would look when inverted

thuggins · Mar 15, 2018

Thanks for the info. I've done C-41 in E-6 chemistry. It is an interesting experiment with cheap film, but the results aren't anything to expend much time or money on.

Rudeofus · Mar 15, 2018

thuggins said:
Thanks for the info. I've done C-41 in E-6 chemistry. It is an interesting experiment with cheap film, but the results aren't anything to expend much time or money on.

Cinestill 800T is not exactly cheap, so it's not a good candidate for "oh, let's just give it a try" type experiments. Funny thing is: ECN-2 is a process based on CD-3 color developer - just like E-6, so whatever results you get, they are going to be more stable than C-41 processed samples.

lantau · Mar 16, 2018

I've done it the other way around and processed E6 film in ECN2. I accidentally shot Provia 400X 120 at EI50 and switched to 400 when I noticed. Decided then to cross process. From the resulting negatives I couldn't see much difference between the normal and the overexposed ones.

awty · Mar 16, 2018

Is it best to pull this film if you only have c41 chemistry. I just received a couple of rolls I ordered and will probably use it for mostly cityscape twilight type shots, maybe.

Cholentpot · Mar 16, 2018

awty said:
Is it best to pull this film if you only have c41 chemistry. I just received a couple of rolls I ordered and will probably use it for mostly cityscape twilight type shots, maybe.

I've seen the opposite shooting Vision3 500T. It behaves well around 650 and it seems that C-41 give a push. 800 is no sweat with it.

Gerald C Koch · Mar 16, 2018

Why bother with this stuff? It's no bargain at any price.There are several color films that can be processed locally. This is an excellent example of the adage that "A fool and his money are soon parted."

awty · Mar 16, 2018

Cholentpot said:
I've seen the opposite shooting Vision3 500T. It behaves well around 650 and it seems that C-41 give a push. 800 is no sweat with it.

Thank you.

Rudeofus · Mar 16, 2018

Gerald C Koch said:
Why bother with this stuff? It's no bargain at any price.There are several color films that can be processed locally. This is an excellent example of the adage that "A fool and his money are soon parted."

Cinestill is the only emulsion I am aware of which gives you ISO 500 in tungsten light. With my 70-200 IS lens I can barely hand hold shots in room light with this film at F/2.8, unlike with any other color film.

Cholentpot · Mar 17, 2018

Rudeofus said:
Cinestill is the only emulsion I am aware of which gives you ISO 500 in tungsten light. With my 70-200 IS lens I can barely hand hold shots in room light with this film at F/2.8, unlike with any other color film.

If you know how to home develop I'd seek out some short ends of Vision3 500T. It's cheaper and you don't get the glow. Any off colors can be easily fixed in post.

film_man · Mar 21, 2018

Gerald C Koch said:
Why bother with this stuff? It's no bargain at any price.There are several color films that can be processed locally. This is an excellent example of the adage that "A fool and his money are soon parted."

Because there is no other tungsten balanced film and it has its own interesting look under certain conditions? It is not an everyday film and it is not for everything but it can look great with the right subject matter and lighting.

kb3lms · Mar 21, 2018

Why bother with this stuff? It's no bargain at any price.

The Vision films are outstanding. Although I have some cinestill film, i haven't gotten around to trying it yet. On the other hand I have shot and processed lots of 5207 250D film. I always scratch mix the ECN-2 color developer and use C-41 chems for the rest. What I've found is that with a little extra CD-3 in the developer and color developing for 3:30 instead of 3:00 (IIRC) the contrast is very much to my liking and the color saturation is wonderful with just the right hint of grain. YMMV, of course. It scans beautifully and prints nicely, too, although Porta or Ektar probably print better. If the Vision films were the only color films available I could be very happy. (Fortunately they are not the only ones)

I would really like to try making some slide from vision with some ECP film but I have never been able to get any.

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