Cinestill 50D

film_man · Feb 16, 2015

Moopheus said:
Well, they have to source the film stock, process it to remove the remjet, spool and repackage the film, and arrange for distribution. They have to pay their own r&d cost, and presumably do this with very little economy of scale. The fact that they can price it anywhere close to Kodak's product is actually kind of remarkable.

You misunderstood, we are saying the same thing and I perfectly understand why Cinestill charges what they charge.

What I do not understand is when people complain that it is expensive to buy. Expensive compared to what, as you say you're paying only 5% more for a niche product compared to a mainstream one. As far as I am concerned it is no more expensive or cheaper than any other film.

Arctic amateur · Feb 17, 2015

It's cheaper than Velvia.

Element 6 · May 14, 2015

There is a nice youtube video interview with the owners of cinestill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRKzEBuhxdk

benjiboy · May 14, 2015

Roger Cole said:
Well I don't know what "cinematic colors" are. Like Ektar only less saturated - well that would be "like Portra, only more in need of filtration for open shade" maybe. But ok, the palette is different. That's reason enough if it's different enough to matter and be noticed.

"Cinematic colours" is advertising agency speak, and can mean whatever the reader want's it to

Xmas · May 15, 2015

benjiboy said:
"Cinematic colours" is advertising agency speak, and can mean whatever the reader want's it to

Hi Ben
http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uplo...t_en_motion_support_processing_h247_h2407.pdf
ECN is a different film from C41 not just C41 with REMJET, different colour developer which I don't have a UK source for any more.
In the past the cine labs might have processes short lengths.

Xmas · May 15, 2015

film_man said:
You misunderstood, we are saying the same thing and I perfectly understand why Cinestill charges what they charge.

What I do not understand is when people complain that it is expensive to buy. Expensive compared to what, as you say you're paying only 5% more for a niche product compared to a mainstream one. As far as I am concerned it is no more expensive or cheaper than any other film.

Some in trade can get re-cans or short ends...
One could buy movie at his companies trade rate, 5222 was cheap then. But he left.

film_man · May 15, 2015

Xmas said:
Some in trade can get re-cans or short ends...
One could buy movie at his companies trade rate, 5222 was cheap then. But he left.

Not sure what you are saying here. Forgive me not familiar with the older film/cine trade business.

Xmas · May 15, 2015

Ok in not a cine buff but

A recan is a can that has been unsealed and re sealed it might have been wound etc. but will all be there.

A short end is what is left in the unexposed side of the Michael mouse ears cassette when they load another cassette to avoid running out part way through next sequence.

Some fraction of 400 or 1000 foot.

Normally the low budget teams will be hanging around like vultures snapping up residual things but sometimes they are available to insiders.

Hope that helps?

pbromaghin · May 15, 2015

There are several websites where you can buy shortends and recans. This includes color and B&W. Here are a couple:
http://www.filmemporium.com/store/index.php?l=product_list&c=18
http://reelgoodfilm.com/about.html

Inventory turns over pretty quickly so you have to email or call to find out what is currently in stock.

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