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So,,, if a lab soups a roll of transparency film,,, fugichrome or ektachrome as a negative,,, what do the colors look like? Pink/Red monochrome?
 

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Basically the film will look like a C-41 maskless negative. Due to the cross-processing the hues will be off a bit and the overall contrast will be higher.

(On the assumption that it would be processed in the C-41 process.)
 

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I happened to me once, after a long strenuous mountain trip. The Ektachrome got put thru C41 by mistake. The shots came out with much longer range (not higher contrast) than a proper chrome, much like a color negative, but were impossible to color balance correctly on RA4 paper, and looked more weird than interesting. I wasn't amused.
 
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Humm,,,I've been known to send found rolls in for processing after a period of time,,,but nothing this bad.
 

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(On the assumption that it would be processed in the C-41 process.)

This is called cross-processing and it sometimes is done on purpose. Some films produce interesting colour shifts. Old Ektachrome emulsions (EPP for example) gave a greenish/yellowish cast with high contrast and nice rendition of reds...
 

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hey grif

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thse thread might be of interest to you ... ( not all e6 some c41 in there too )
i have some photos in my "albums" that are c41 + e6 cross processed in caffenol 130
the chrome film has a yellowish cast to it the c41 has an bluish cast to it
they kind of look "different" when you electrify them ...

i haven't processed a lot of color in b/w lately but the fall is around the corner ...
the grain is really smooth when you cross color and b/w .. im not sure what sort of b/w emulsion
they first coat these films with, but it is nice, almost too non-grainy for me :wink:

have fun !
john
 

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E6 in C41 gives you varying results from manufacturer to manufacturer and from film to film. Due to the extra layers to compensate for fluorescent lighting, I have been told (and have seen) that Fuji, cross processed, gives more trouble in printing. I have found myself that Kodak EPP cross processed the best. It almost prints like a color negative.

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RE, before you came along to enlighten me, I always thought color film was basically 3 layers, being RGB or CMY, whichever. I would have never considered there may be many that did so much. Layers to correct flaws in hue on another layer, layers to scavenge away chemistry from the solutions from being destructive to a particular layer. Layers to buffer or be a catalyst, all sorts of layers. And each one had to be stacked in a certain order, which in itself must have been a Rubik's cube. Mind boggling. There's just some things in life that make us all ask from time to time--"who comes up with this stuff?". I just had to chime in and say you EK guys were something else. Makes me think of the expression that if you gave an infinite number of monkeys and infinite number of typewriters, one of them will re-write War and Peace. But speaking of film, you guys actually did it. Regards.
 

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Thanks Tom. I am concerned that Война и миръ was written in Russian! OOOPS, that was "War and Peace" :D

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