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The weekly storage container thread! Glass or plastic food containers are good. I would avoid some of the flimsier water bottles, though, and anything that uses a "plastic saving" cap. Soft drink bottles are good since they need to withstand contents under pressure. Fill the bottles to capacity, tighten the cap, and store in the dark. Never use bleach containers, and be conscious of cross-contamination if you plan to reuse bottles (e.g. don't store developer in a bottle that you previously used to store fixer).

The 20oz. Sobe bottles are my bottle of choice lately.
 
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Ah simple as that! Thanks!

The weekly storage container thread! Glass or plastic food containers are good. I would avoid some of the flimsier water bottles, though, and anything that uses a "plastic saving" cap. Soft drink bottles are good since they need to withstand contents under pressure. Fill the bottles to capacity, tighten the cap, and store in the dark. Never use bleach containers, and be conscious of cross-contamination if you plan to reuse bottles (e.g. don't store developer in a bottle that you previously used to store fixer).

The 20oz. Sobe bottles are my bottle of choice lately.
 

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The last time I asked this question the replies went on and on. I think bvy is on to something. But what am I gonna do w/ all those glass bottles, marbles, and Saran Wrap that I bought? Maybe I can talk the wife into playing marbles w/ me. I used to be pretty good on the school grounds at keepsies. If I have any sense I'll let her win. After 10 years of marriage, you learn a few things.
 

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I keep it simple, I reuse 1 litre glass juice bottles. The size makes for ease measurements and the content is good for me too.
Also the opening is very wide, so it's easy to pour the chems in and out of them.

I don't bother with any marbles etc, instead I prefer to keep things as simple as possible...

For my replenished xtol I use 2l sherry bottle.
 

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The weekly storage container thread!

+1 The above quote should reveal sentiment about your question.

Please search the archives for your answer. That is what they are for. It will be a good exercise in how to use APUG effectively.

One keyword to search on is "permeability."
 
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I love a beer growler! Wait. What's a beer growler?

The highschool football team after a kegger.

A growler is just a specialty bottle used to transport craft brews, 64ozs is common as is 1L and 2L. They're glass/ceramic and have tops that seal really well to keep the carbonation in and oxygen out, etc.
 

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I think a beer growler is an EA-18 G aircraft whose engines run with beer instead of JP-8.
 

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In my experience, the chems will keep considerably longer in glass bottles than plastic.

I buy brown glass bottles cheaply from a darkroom supplier.

So far no liquid has gone south on me in those before I have used it up.

I have lost a few batches in plastic bottles though, even in the accordion type where you push the air out.
 
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I just bought a bottle of wine that has a glass stopper with a silicon-like part that ensure a tight fit -- that's how the wine is bottled and shipped. Looks like a great way to (A) drink wine, then (B) store chems. Got to properly label the bottle once you get to B, of course.
 

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I just bought a bottle of wine that has a glass stopper with a silicon-like part that ensure a tight fit -- that's how the wine is bottled and shipped. Looks like a great way to (A) drink wine, then (B) store chems. Got to properly label the bottle once you get to B, of course.

Wine for the photographer is indeed the best auxiliary when developing film :wink:
 

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Question about chemical storage at home. We use these guys in the darkroom. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/43195-REG/Doran_PRPRT5_Chemical_Storage_Tank_5.html but I'm not spending $75 for chemical storage at home. Any plastic/glass container ok to use? I'll certainly be re-using stop and fix as much as possible. This is for film developing only.

Thanks!

Take a trip to wallmart. I picked up a couple of 10l with spout a couple of years ago and paid less than $15 each. probably a lot less, I don't remember exactly. I use one for distilled water and the other for tap. I like to have my water at room temp without having to measure it.

Aside from that, 2l apple juce containers do just nicely.
 

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A bottle like this is sometimes called a Growler when used to store beer.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ormulary_50_1230_Glass_Storage_Jug_Amber.html

You can see the rest of the line that B&H carries on their web site they have 125, 250, 500 ml and 1liter, half gallon and gallon. (effectively 2 and 4 litre)

Some folks will mix a Gallon size packat of chemicals and put it in one 1/2 gallon, one 1 Litre and 2 half litre (500ml) containers to avoid the problem of too much air in teh bottles. use the 500ml bottles first then transfer from the 1 liter to the two half litre, finaly use the half gallon to refill the smaller bottles.
 
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Really man, what benefit is it for you to tell me this. I know how to use the f***ing website. I like to ask the questions myself, then it's under my threads.

+1 The above quote should reveal sentiment about your question.

Please search the archives for your answer. That is what they are for. It will be a good exercise in how to use APUG effectively.

One keyword to search on is "permeability."
 
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With all due respect to your preference for having people answer your question fully, expressing all the nuances and perhaps personal preferences—well, you might just lose out on some important issues, which take a bit of time to describe. Like "permeability", for example. You might find significant differences between PET and HDPE plastics, not to mention the issue you did not ask about, of different closures, liners in them or not etc. Use the wrong one for longer storage of some film developers and your batch of best negatives gets ruined, while the fixer is still ok.

Gerald is well respected, on this forum, for his depth of knowledge of chemistry, and he, like others, have contributed, many times, to the treasure trove of APUG wisdom. I am in awe of the time and personal dedication he puts into answering complex issues. Except for some highly contentious discussions, you do not see people reposting such important detail every time a question gets asked, because they've already done it, usually just once, in the past. The repeats, on the other hand, are often more trivial and sometimes factually incorrect, as not the usually most careful folks tend to reply. Looking for that great thread on a question may take 5 minutes, but it rewards one with far more knowledge than you'd get from your own thread unless yours is the first, or one of the best threads.

Indeed, some of the better threads start not with a question, but with a list of references to other threads that have already answered a similar question, then pointing out what it was that had not been addressed fully, previously.

Good luck finding a bottle.
 
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With all due respect to your preference for having people answer your question fully, expressing all the nuances and perhaps personal preferences—well, you might just lose out on some important issues, which take a bit of time to describe. Like "permeability", for example. You might find significant differences between PET and HDPE plastics, not to mention the issue you did not ask about, of different closures, liners in them or not etc. Use the wrong one for longer storage of some film developers and your batch of best negatives gets ruined, while the fixer is still ok.

Gerald is well respected, on this forum, for his depth of knowledge of chemistry, and he, like others, have contributed, many times, to the treasure trove of APUG wisdom. I am in awe of the time and personal dedication he puts into answering complex issues. Except for some highly contentious discussions, you do not see people reposting such important detail every time a question gets asked, because they've already done it, usually just once, in the past. The repeats, on the other hand, are often more trivial and sometimes factually incorrect, as not the usually most careful folks tend to reply. Looking for that great thread on a question may take 5 minutes, but it rewards one with far more knowledge than you'd get from your own thread unless yours is the first, or one of the best threads.

Indeed, some of the better threads start not with a question, but with a list of references to other threads that have already answered a similar question, then pointing out what it was that had not been addressed fully, previously.

Good luck finding a bottle.

Thanks. I felt his response was somewhat snide, but I think I misunderstood. I did get the question answered quickly and efficiently posting a repeat question, but yes, I could/should have just searched the forums and would have found my answer just as efficiently. Thanks for clarifying.
 

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While my post may appear to be a bit abrupt that was not my intent. My point was that the very fastest way to get an answer for a question that has been asked before is to use the archives first rather than post a question and then wait hours for people to reply.
 

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I have used the archives with very modest results. Maybe its incorrect use, maybe not set up right, I don't know. However, I can understand why sometimes a person may try this and give up, and just post the question.

Sometimes while trying to be helpful, a responding post may come across as unfriendly, or finding fault, and like any communication, may be misunderstood. Communication is not for the timid?
 

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I have used the archives with very modest results. Maybe its incorrect use, maybe not set up right, I don't know. However, I can understand why sometimes a person may try this and give up, and just post the question.

I think the problem may be choice of the search word. A poor choice will not return good results. I have experienced this problem myself. This is why I suggested the use of "permeability" which I knew would lead to the best threads.
 

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While my post may appear to be a bit abrupt that was not my intent. My point was that the very fastest way to get an answer for a question that has been asked before is to use the archives first rather than post a question and then wait hours for people to reply.

Your response was quite valid and strait to the point. The offensive behaviour was his and not an appropriate tone or wording for this site.
 
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