Chemical Photoshop

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Jun 12, 2011

I am old APUG member and researched Autochrome , Technicolor , Kodachrome 2 colors processes. I think I succeeded to learn some of theirs chemistry , dye numbers , ratios etc. I think Ron Mowrey Photo Engineer awaked me.

Important thing is not to try the older chemistry to match with the colors of WW1 but important thing is to find the exact chemistry dyes and their curves to predict their colorspace.

I thought , If I can learn the curves of all these factories dyes and put it in to a photoshop plug in and give the user to mix them as they want or as they reported at the factory books , I can make a chemical photoshop.

Is it simple as to learn the dye curve , making a color pallette and change the pallette as much put as in to the emulsion and make a color space which will be compared with original rgb and simulated rgb.

I think this is similar to look up table but you can predict every emulsion you will make or want to simulated.

What are the obstacles I could not think ?

Thank you ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

Istanbul

Bob Carnie · Jun 13, 2011

Very , Very interesting question you pose here, I will give it much thought and speak to my Mentor Dinesh and see if he can enlighten me to this very interesting chemical photoshop idea.

Mustafa Umut Sarac said:
I am old APUG member and researched Autochrome , Technicolor , Kodachrome 2 colors processes. I think I succeeded to learn some of theirs chemistry , dye numbers , ratios etc. I think Ron Mowrey Photo Engineer awaked me.

Important thing is not to try the older chemistry to match with the colors of WW1 but important thing is to find the exact chemistry dyes and their curves to predict their colorspace.

I thought , If I can learn the curves of all these factories dyes and put it in to a photoshop plug in and give the user to mix them as they want or as they reported at the factory books , I can make a chemical photoshop.

Is it simple as to learn the dye curve , making a color pallette and change the pallette as much put as in to the emulsion and make a color space which will be compared with original rgb and simulated rgb.

I think this is similar to look up table but you can predict every emulsion you will make or want to simulated.

What are the obstacles I could not think ?

Thank you ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

Istanbul

banksy · Jun 17, 2011

Language barrier aside Mustafa, your posts are so far out you need a telescope just to see 'em.

If you check on the net you'll find a number of photoshop plug-ins, and settings in RAW developers, that claim to mimic the look of the old emulsions. Using layers and blending modes in photoshop should allow you to get that authentic World War One-Autochrome-Technicolor-Kodachrome 'look' - or maybe not, since Kodachrome didn't appear until the 1930s.

Chris101 · Jun 20, 2011

Mustafa, as you know, I feel that the best way to get the look of chemical color, is to use chemicals!

This isn't to say that I do not use digital photography to get color - I certainly do - but then it's digital color. I don't see any advantage to imitating chemicals with electronics. To me, chemistry is chemistry - and I love it, while digital is something else entirely - which I am also very fond.

gikafaso · Sep 23, 2016

I am an artist and i design digital artworks for Artbywicks and they ask artist to paint the artwork on canvas by hand. I think it is pretty cool and colours turns more vibrant than photo.

RalphLambrecht · Aug 27, 2017

Mustafa Umut Sarac said:
I am old APUG member and researched Autochrome , Technicolor , Kodachrome 2 colors processes. I think I succeeded to learn some of theirs chemistry , dye numbers , ratios etc. I think Ron Mowrey Photo Engineer awaked me.

Important thing is not to try the older chemistry to match with the colors of WW1 but important thing is to find the exact chemistry dyes and their curves to predict their colorspace.

I thought , If I can learn the curves of all these factories dyes and put it in to a photoshop plug in and give the user to mix them as they want or as they reported at the factory books , I can make a chemical photoshop.

Is it simple as to learn the dye curve , making a color pallette and change the pallette as much put as in to the emulsion and make a color space which will be compared with original rgb and simulated rgb.

I think this is similar to look up table but you can predict every emulsion you will make or want to simulated.

What are the obstacles I could not think ?

Thank you ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

Istanbul

I thinks clever guy like you Umut will figure it out.

Chan Tran · Aug 27, 2017

What you do has much more value academically then in real use. I would want to know about the stuff that you learned and no I don't want to simulate any of them in photoshop.

Chemical Photoshop

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