Cheap Rolleiflex sun shade question

darkosaric · Oct 20, 2019

As original sun shades are very expensive, I got myself plastic one, for like 10$. But unfortunately it clicks on 45 degree angle as it should. Will this be a problem? I would not like to waste a roll of film for test, if someone already had this issue.

Thanks!

removedacct1 · Oct 20, 2019

I bought the same shade and discovered that there is one position you can start it at that ends up properly squared, and with the logo facing upward. You need to play around with it a bit to find the correct start position. If I remember correctly, there's a white dot you line up with a mark on the lens housing or some such.

BrianShaw · Oct 20, 2019

I put a mark on mine so I get it lined up properly the first time.

Although I never used it in that position... I can’t believe that it matters. There may be some minor vignetting of the viewing lens but that’s no problem.

reddesert · Oct 20, 2019

I have a old Japanese version of the Bay 1 lens shade. If you have it on at 45 degrees as in the picture, it will probably vignette the corners of the 6x6 frame. You can verify this by opening the camera back, opening the shutter on B, and looking through the lens from the corners.

As others have said, there should be some orientation where it goes on properly. The bayonet fitting is roughly 3-fold symmetric, so just keep trying until you find the direction where it is lined up right.

darkosaric · Oct 20, 2019

That is the other option, beside 45 degree, in any case I don"t get it properly.

Nokton48 · Oct 20, 2019

Mine did the same thing. I ended up starting mine with the dot on the top, then twisting it 45 to lock on.

Kind of annoying at first then I figured it out. Now it fits squarely on.

Don't give up. There are only three ways it can go on.

Pieter12 · Oct 20, 2019

Hold it at that 45º over the viewing lens. That would give you an indication of any vignetting you might get.

removedacct1 · Oct 20, 2019

darkosaric said:
That is the other option, beside 45 degree, in any case I don"t get it properly.

Does yours have a white dot on one side? If so, that lines up with the top of the lens: insert, and twist clockwise. As Nokton says, there are only three possible ways it can go on, and one of them is what you want!

darkosaric · Oct 20, 2019

paulbarden said:
Does yours have a white dot on one side? If so, that lines up with the top of the lens: insert, and twist clockwise. As Nokton says, there are only three possible ways it can go on, and one of them is what you want!

Yes it has a white dot. But from 3 ways - none is 100% right ... one is 45 degrees, second and third are like in the last photo - around 15 degrees off.

Pieter12 said:
Hold it at that 45º over the viewing lens.

Thanks for the tip, will try tomorrow at bright light.

shutterfinger · Oct 20, 2019

When checking for vignetting look at the lens center from the corner of the image frame at taking aperture. if you cannot see the aperture fully you have vignetting.

Being its an economy shade the mount is likely mismade, has a burr or bend in the mount preventing it from fully seating or the mount is improperly attached to the hood. Return it for another.

Dan Daniel · Oct 20, 2019

Does the shade need to be clicked into a stop? Those cheap shades are almost always off a bit like your second photo shows. But they will usually sit in the proper position. You could add a shim from tape or something to the back of the hood to make it stay oriented properly.

I would try to get it sitting square or use it in the second position, just slightly off-kilter.

The most extreme position to check for vignetting as shutterfinger described is at maximum close focus and widest aperture. If you can't see the hood looking through the back from a corner- line up the corner metal opening with the lens opening and see if the hood is obstructing any light- you'll be ok. Check the same extreme without the hood in place just to be certai nthat thereisn't some slight vignetting already occurring- not uncommon with wide open lenses.

JPD · Oct 20, 2019

If you are happy with the results from the Rolleiflex, save and buy a real Rollei sun shade for it.

I have several Rolleiflexes, but my favourite at the moment is the pre-war Automat from 1939. It's in mint condition, has a very sharp Tessar and weigh much less than later Rolleiflexes.

btaylor · Oct 21, 2019

There are inexpensive Chinese knock offs of the Rollei sunshades available on Amazon or the ‘Bay. They work just like the originals- I have them in Bay I and III. The originals are very expensive on the used market.

tokam · Oct 21, 2019

I have one of the inexpensive plastic lens hoods plus a genuine Rollei B30 lens hood that I use on a Yashicamat 124G.

The plastic hood engages the inner bayonet and prevents the use of filters. Bear this in mind if you want to use filters with some of
these aftermarket lens hoods.

The Rollei hood, of course, fits on the outer bayonet of the lens and allows the use of filters.

macfred · Oct 21, 2019

tokam said:
... The plastic hood engages the inner bayonet and prevents the use of filters. Bear this in mind if you want to use filters with some of
these aftermarket lens hoods.
The Rollei hood, of course, fits on the outer bayonet of the lens and allows the use of filters.

Same with the plastic hood my 3.5F came with - I bought the original Rolleiflex hood for 35 EUR on eb.. and I don't regret.

removedacct1 · Oct 21, 2019

If none of the three possible positions is correct, then I’m guessing you’ve bought a shade that’s not correct for your Rollei. This is what I bought; Fotodiox Metal Lens Hood for Twin Lens Rollei (TLR) Bay II https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006P5Q8AA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_GSARDbA7Q8W2D

btaylor · Oct 23, 2019

paulbarden said:
If none of the three possible positions is correct, then I’m guessing you’ve bought a shade that’s not correct for your Rollei. This is what I bought; Fotodiox Metal Lens Hood for Twin Lens Rollei (TLR) Bay II https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006P5Q8AA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_GSARDbA7Q8W2D

I have the bay III version. Works just like the original, outside bayonet and all that

mug · Oct 23, 2019

Find someone with a 3D printer, give him a bottle of beer, and ask him to try this file
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3289385

JPD · Oct 23, 2019

paulbarden said:
If none of the three possible positions is correct, then I’m guessing you’ve bought a shade that’s not correct for your Rollei. This is what I bought; Fotodiox Metal Lens Hood for Twin Lens Rollei (TLR) Bay II https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006P5Q8AA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_GSARDbA7Q8W2D

Fotodiox don't have a Bayonet I sun shade, though. They only have Bay II, III and IV. There are plenty of used Bay I accessories, so maybe it isn't commercially viable to make new sun shades for it.

macfred · Oct 23, 2019

JPD said:
Fotodiox don't have a Bayonet I sun shade, though. They only have Bay II, III and IV. There are plenty of used Bay I accessories, so maybe it isn't commercially viable to make new sun shades for it.

I bought a Fotodiox bay II hood for my 3.5F first - I didn't fit and I bought the original hood for about 45 EURO in good shape.

An advantage for original Rolleiflex bay I accesoires : Those are usually cheaper than those for bay II or III

Dan Daniel · Oct 23, 2019

I've had a couple of fotodiox Bay II hoods need to have some metal ground away to go on. Not sure if this is from variance in the front panel design by Rollei (the lens spacing change??) or from a problem with the fotodiox design. A little fling cleared it up.

OP: not sure how it works in Germany but I find that if I am patient eventually someone lists a metal exterior mount Bay I hood for $20 USD or so. Set up a search so ebay sends you new listings every day, and eventually? Patience is key.

macfred · Oct 23, 2019

Dan Daniel said:
I've had a couple of fotodiox Bay II hoods need to have some metal ground away to go on. Not sure if this is from variance in the front panel design by Rollei (the lens spacing change??) or from a problem with the fotodiox design. A little fling cleared it up ...

Interesting to hear - my Fotodiox hood doesn't fit my 3.5F Planar but a friends 3.5F Xenotar ...

darkosaric · Oct 24, 2019

Dan Daniel said:
OP: not sure how it works in Germany but I find that if I am patient eventually someone lists a metal exterior mount Bay I hood for $20 USD or so. Set up a search so ebay sends you new listings every day, and eventually? Patience is key.

I had some search for some time, but the price was always over 70€ or so. So to make thing faster - I have ordered plastic one. It will do the job, I will leave it cca 15 degrees not straight, and the before shoot I can make it straight.
But if I see some cheap originals - I will definitely take it.

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