cheap 400 35mm film

seanE · Jan 24, 2016

Whats you're favourite ''budjet film'' I'm using fomapan currently, And am looking to bulk order some film,
At the price id nearly go roles when it comes to fomapan, But i might go with a bulk 30m role if it was a better film for the same price.

some of the other films I'm looking at are.
[h=1][/h]Bergger brf 400 plus

HP 5

HiHoSilver · Jan 24, 2016

'Locally, I'm getting HP5 100' rolls for $67. Roughly 3.50/rl

Ricardo Miranda · Jan 24, 2016

Fomapan 400
Kentmere 400

Michael L. · Jan 24, 2016

I concur with Ricardo.
Soup Fomapan 400 in Rodinal 1+50 and Kentmere 400 in Rodinal 1+50 or HC-110 dil. H (1+63) for excellent results.

jeffreythree · Jan 24, 2016

Kentmere 400 for me when Kentmere 100 is to slow, but I have wondered how Ultrafine Xtreme 400 would compare since the bulk rolls are $35.

mdarnton · Jan 24, 2016

Ultrafine xtreme 400, $35 for 100 feet. Sufficiently similar to Tri-X.
http://www.ultrafineonline.com/ulxtblwhfiis3.html

In color: Kodak Ultramax 400. Cheaper than dirt.

MattKrull · Jan 24, 2016

Kentmere for me.

Gerald C Koch · Jan 24, 2016

Harder to find nowadays but it's always good to see if any short-ends of Eastman 5222 are available. I shoot it at an EI 0f 400 and develop it in HC-110. First check with http://www.filmemporium.com/store With any company selling short-ends it is always good to phone as their stock varies from day to day.

Richard S. (rich815) · Jan 24, 2016

Gerald C Koch said:
Harder to find nowadays but it's always good to see if any short-ends of Eastman 5222 are available. I shoot it at an EI 0f 400 and develop it in HC-110. First check with http://www.filmemporium.com/store With any company selling short-ends it is always good to phone as their stock varies from day to day.

Gerald what dilution and times do you use please? I have some 5222 that I formerly used to shoot at 125 or so. Would like to try at 400 in HC-110.

destroya · Jan 24, 2016

rollei retro 400s, although its really a 200 speed film at best

alanrockwood · Jan 24, 2016

Gerald C Koch said:
Harder to find nowadays but it's always good to see if any short-ends of Eastman 5222 are available. I shoot it at an EI 0f 400 and develop it in HC-110. First check with http://www.filmemporium.com/store With any company selling short-ends it is always good to phone as their stock varies from day to day.

A quick look at filmemporium, and it looks like 5222 isn't a great bargain at the moment: $348.14 for a 400 ft roll, which works out to be $87.035 per 100 feet, or about $4.84 for a 36 exposure roll. Comparing to 100 ft rolls of several major brands at Freestyle (Ilford, Kodak, Kentmere, Foma), that is more expensive than any except for TMAX 400 and Tri-X 400

Hopefully, the prices on short ends of 5222 might fluctuate up and down to allow the occasional bargain to be had.

Gerald C Koch · Jan 24, 2016

Richard S. (rich815) said:
Gerald what dilution and times do you use please? I have some 5222 that I formerly used to shoot at 125 or so. Would like to try at 400 in HC-110.

EI = 400 HC-110 1+49 8.5 min @ 21C

Gerald C Koch · Jan 25, 2016

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Gerald C Koch · Jan 25, 2016

The 400 ft rolls you saw advertised are unopened Kodak stock and not short-ends. After posting I checked and film-emporium did not have any short ends which are typically much cheaper. Short-ends get snapped up pretty quickly. There is a whole cottage industry spooling cine film on cassettes and advertising on ebay.

Short-ends are what is left in a camera after a day's shoot. They are too short for later use. Production companies sell the short-ends to companies like film-emporium. They will not be listed as multiples of 100 ft. More likely you will find lengths like 123 ft or something similar. I have gotten short-ends for 15 cents a foot or even less. But with the popularity of this film perhaps a bit more now. But never the price of unopened film. BTW short-ends are fresh in-date film. There are also medium- and long-ends.

Companies like film-emporium sell new film at a bit of a premium because production companies are in a hurry to continue filming. They are therefor willing to pay the higher cost for immediate delivery. Last I checked they were more expensive than the Kodak on-line store for the same product but Kodak is slower to ship.

cmacd123 · Jan 26, 2016

low cost 400 ASA stocks I have used.

foma/aka Artista EDU is a good basic film, last time I got some in Bulk they were not putting ANY edge printing on it in bulk which makes identifying more interesting.

the kentmere is also Cheep but good, made as a lower cost film for the art school market. It does not see to have the depth that HP5 offers but perhaps I need to adjust more for it.

Another relatively cheep Movie film is the Filmotec ORWO but their distibution does depend on where you live, the North American distributor (orwona.com) is fairly quick to ship but if you live elsewhere you have to find out from filmotec.de who your local distributor is. ( http://www.filmotec.de/?page_id=353&lang=en ) The N74 is their 400 iso film and comes in 100 and 400 (and 1000)ft rolls ONLY

rpavich · Feb 10, 2016

Kentmere 400 in bulk
Ilford HP5 in bulk.

Both dev'd in EcoPro (X-Tol substitute)

frobozz · Feb 10, 2016

Gerald C Koch said:
The 400 ft rolls you saw advertised are unopened Kodak stock and not short-ends. After posting I checked and film-emporium did not have any short ends which are typically much cheaper. Short-ends get snapped up pretty quickly. There is a whole cottage industry spooling cine film on cassettes and advertising on ebay.

Short-ends are what is left in a camera after a day's shoot. They are too short for later use. Production companies sell the short-ends to companies like film-emporium. They will not be listed as multiples of 100 ft. More likely you will find lengths like 123 ft or something similar. I have gotten short-ends for 15 cents a foot or even less. But with the popularity of this film perhaps a bit more now. But never the price of unopened film. BTW short-ends are fresh in-date film. There are also medium- and long-ends.

Companies like film-emporium sell new film at a bit of a premium because production companies are in a hurry to continue filming. They are therefor willing to pay the higher cost for immediate delivery. Last I checked they were more expensive than the Kodak on-line store for the same product but Kodak is slower to ship.

$257.88 is what Kodak is currently charging for a 400 ft roll of 5222, so yeah, no need to pay any markup to Film Emporium. Every time I've ordered from Kodak it's been here in 2 days.

Duncan

rpavich · Feb 10, 2016

frobozz said:
$257.88 is what Kodak is currently charging for a 400 ft roll of 5222, so yeah, no need to pay any markup to Film Emporium. Every time I've ordered from Kodak it's been here in 2 days.

Duncan

How do you store a 400 ft roll of film?
I take it it comes in a dark bag in a box, then you peel off 100' of it to use in a bulk loader. What about storage of the rest?

Ko.Fe. · Feb 10, 2016

Any length film could be stored in the regular freezer.

Kentmere and Foma are cheap, but never worked as 400 film for me.
For real 400 and higher I'm using HP5+ in bulk. It is priced very reasonably.

frobozz · Feb 10, 2016

rpavich said:
How do you store a 400 ft roll of film?
I take it it comes in a dark bag in a box, then you peel off 100' of it to use in a bulk loader. What about storage of the rest?

It comes about the same way that 100 ft bulk rolls come. Inside a cardboard box is a metal can. Inside the metal can is an opaque black plastic bag folded over. Inside the plastic bag is 400 feet of film. It's on a 2" plastic core (instead of the 1" ones that come on normal still film bulk rolls) and the cut end is taped down to the rest of the roll. I use proper film rewinds and split reels to mount the original film and the new 2" core to wind 100' onto for the bulk loader. Some people use two nails on a smooth board and do it by hand with the film laying down sideways. Then you retape the end of the remaining 300' and put it back in the bag and the can for next time. Or sometimes I go ahead and split it up into 4 100' rolls (it helps to have spare bags and cans of course!) Keep in mind that there is nothing other than wind tension keeping that 400' of film on that plastic core - handle with care, or it will spill everywhere and make a huge mess! Don't just try to pull film off of it by hand in midair.

Duncan

frobozz · Feb 10, 2016

Oh, and I've tried it with Rodinal and with HC-110, but I'm getting very good results metering it at 400 and then developing for 10:00 in ID-11 1:1 using an agitation every minute. D-76 should give the same results.

Duncan

pbromaghin · Feb 10, 2016

The last time I was looking for bulk, I almost got Kentmere 100 and 400, but decided on FP4 and HP5 because they weren't all that much more expensive. And they come out to about the same per-shot cost as the 400' Double-X, without the added hassle.

frobozz · Feb 10, 2016

Yeah with all of Kodak's price increases, the cost advantage of Double-X has disappeared entirely. I just really really like the film. HP-5 is definitely my second choice though, I've shot miles of that in my life and was what I was shooting before I got hooked on the 5222 stuff.

Duncan

pbromaghin · Feb 10, 2016

frobozz said:
Yeah with all of Kodak's price increases, the cost advantage of Double-X has disappeared entirely. I just really really like the film. HP-5 is definitely my second choice though, I've shot miles of that in my life and was what I was shooting before I got hooked on the 5222 stuff.

Duncan

What was it that you liked about 5222 that made you switch? My eyes are not so good as to see much difference among these and tri-x.

nworth · Feb 10, 2016

Last week I got a 100 foot roll of Arista Ultra EDU 400 from Freestyle for some developer tests - $48 including shipping. I don't know how good a film it is, but it was the cheapest I could fine.

cheap 400 35mm film

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