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To my eye, CCD has color rendering that is not totally accurate…
 
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I prefer the color accuracy of CMOS than the vibrant color palette of CCD…
 
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Yes, my Leica MD 262 only shoots RAW files and sent to my computer look more realistic than film flash drives ..!

Also I feel the CMOS sensors deliver better accuracy in color rendering compared to the “Kodak” look of CCD sensors…
 
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Still prefer the more accurate colors of CMOS…
 
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I do conclude CMOS renders more accurate colors than CCD sensors…
 

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CCD looks better. To me colour accuracy is of little value. Films were rarely colour accurate. Cameras lost a certain something when they went to CMOS. Again all my opinion.
 

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I do conclude CMOS renders more accurate colors than CCD sensors

A conclusion I wouldn't stand by since it seems that your 'analysis' ignores color workflow decisions (both the photographer's and the camera maker's). These swamp any subtle differences in sensor performance.
It's like arguing your car goes faster with slightly bigger fluffy dice suspended from the rearview mirror.

If you want to get a grip on this, forget the CCD/CMOS difference and start reading books on color theory and color management. Then after a year of studying, revisit the question once again and dive into the technical literature on the relevant semiconductor technology.
 
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I’m more of a picture sided brain. My understanding comes more from visualization of images than reading what someone writes.
In other words comparing the actual images side by side helps me make a decision better…
 

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In that case, you're lost unless someone presents you with a dependable side by side comparison. I don't think such exists without color management having a severe influence, so you'll remain 'conclusion-less'.

Well, you can of course draw a conclusion if you like - there's just no differentiation between that conclusion and a delusion. Which, of course, may be satisfactory. It's hard to get through life without being delusional at least some of the time.
 
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CCD looks better. To me colour accuracy is of little value. Films were rarely colour accurate. Cameras lost a certain something when they went to CMOS. Again all my opinion.

I’m very critical of capturing the realistic colors of landscapes more than the attractive qualities that are not so real…
 
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Thanks for sharing…
 
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Maybe I need to explain further.
In college studying law, I became overwhelmed and bored. My counselor suggested that I took art classes to relieve the stress.
To my surprise I was told by many art teachers to stay away from law. The instructors added my brain was heavily weighted in the arts. One side being much more dominant than the other.
I painted landscapes in oil and tried to mimic true colors in my paintings.
So when I shoot landscapes with my cameras It’s like I’m painting with the them to achieve art work…
 

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I found that during my quarter century of law practice that both my photography and my interest in mathematics improved the quality of my legal work, and that they also enhanced my enjoyment of that work.
And the legal experience both helped my photography, and gave me some opportunity to exercise my mathematical skills.
I'm afraid your art teachers were sorely mistaken.
 
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I’m sorry, how were the art teachers mistaken…
 

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Color is subjective, depending on the time of day, weather conditions and lighting if artificial or mixed. Have you compared a photo shot with both a CCD and CMOS sensor (preferably cameras by the same manufacturer and of similar vintage) of a standardized color chart on a calibrated monitor and the chart itself under industry-standard lighting? Are you looking at JPEG images as delivered by the camera. All jpegs from cameras are processed raw images according to each manufacturer's algorithms, that can vary. Plus any settings you have made in the camera.
 

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No, and all images from the MD 262 are RAW only…
 

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No, and all images from the MD 262 are RAW only…

So the quality you achieve is related mostly to the quality of your RAW converter, and how well matched it is to the sensor and camera firmware.
It is good that you are happy with the combination.
 
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