Canon New F1 N Battery cord.

[colin wells]

Is it possible to power the New F1 (6 v version) from the battery pack of the winder. I have seen the battery plates you can buy but where would it plug into the winder as the leads look short.

 

[benjiboy]

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Is it possible to power the New F1 (6 v version) from the battery pack of the winder. I have seen the battery plates you can buy but where would it plug into the winder as the leads look short?

I think the lead you refer to is the dummy battery cover for connecting the New F1 to the Motor Drive FN ( Battery Cord FN C ), I don't know if the Winder FN has that facility.

 

[colin wells]

Where does it connect to the Motor drive FN. It looks like some sort of a screw in fitting on the dummy battery lead

 

[flavio81]

Is it possible to power the New F1 (6 v version) from the battery pack of the winder. I have seen the battery plates you can buy but where would it plug into the winder as the leads look short.

Yes, the accesory does exist, but I don't know where does it connects to. In theory, it connects with the motor drive.

 

[Mackinaw]

Not for the power winder, but there is a cord for the motor drive. Power Cord C-FN will connect the camera to the NiCd battery attachment that powers the AE Motor Drive FN. Nothing like this for the power winder.

Jim B.

 

[AgX]

What would be the practical benefit of running meter and shutter on the external battery?


It can't be weight, as against the body, lens, driver/winder, battery-pack the primary cell is insignificant. Moreover as the adpter has some weight too.

The only reasons I can imagine is that of
-) substituting the "rare" primary cell by common cells (not applicable)
-) substituting the "expensive" primary cell by "cheap" cells
-) only having one battery to bother with, which is regulary exchanged anyway (the most convincing to me)

 

[gordrob]

You can use the Canon High Power Ni-Cd Pack FN to power the camera with the Battery Cord C-FN. The C-FN replaces the 6V battery and connects to the front of High Power Ni-Cd Pack FN.
If you check this site there is a PDF of the motor drives for the FN and you can see that only the one Ni-Cd motor drives allows you to power the camera.

https://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/canonf1n/motordrives/motordrivefn/images/systemcahrt.pdf

The mir.com site has a lot of information on the Canon FN

 

[AgX]

 

[colin wells]

What would be the practical benefit of running meter and shutter on the external battery?


It can't be weight, as against the body, lens, driver/winder, battery-pack the primary cell is insignificant. Moreover as the adpter has some weight too.

The only reasons I can imagine is that of
-) substituting the "rare" primary cell by common cells (not applicable)
-) substituting the "expensive" primary cell by "cheap" cells
-) only having one battery to bother with, which is regulary exchanged anyway (the most convincing to me)

You can't replace the camera battery with the AE Motor Drive attached if the drive is removed the film chamber is exposed to daylight. It can be removed in a dark room or a black bag in the field/street. Hence the advantage of driving the camera from from an external supply.

 

[benjiboy]

Where does it connect to the Motor drive FN. It looks like some sort of a screw in fitting on the dummy battery lead

To the front of the battery pack

 

[benjiboy]

Is it possible to power the New F1 (6 v version) from the battery pack of the winder. I have seen the battery plates you can buy but where would it plug into the winder as the leads look short.

I don't know if it attaches to the " winder " Colin, it attaches to the front of the battery pack of the Motor Drive F.N.

 

[colin wells]

I don't know if it attaches to the " winder " Colin, it attaches to the front of the battery pack of the Motor Drive F.N.

Yes it isn't what I thought it was. I thought it plugged into the winder/motor drive but it just goes into a battery pack .

 

[AgX]

You can't replace the camera battery with the AE Motor Drive attached if the drive is removed the film chamber is exposed to daylight.

One likely would not think so for a motor drive, but the culprit is the access to the rewind coupling , which always has to be covered from light, either by a cap or a attached winder.

 

[colin wells]

One likely would not think so for a motor drive, but the culprit is the access to the rewind coupling , which always has to be covered from light, either by a cap or a attached winder.

Or 9 times out of ten a piece of black tape

 

[benjiboy]

Or 9 times out of ten a piece of black tape

You don't need to remove the rewind coupling cover on the New F1 to attach the Power Winder FN, because the winder doesn't have the ability to power rewind film only the mother drive so, you can remove the winder to replace the battery without exposing the film

 

[feanolas]

What would be the practical benefit of running meter and shutter on the external battery?


It can't be weight, as against the body, lens, driver/winder, battery-pack the primary cell is insignificant. Moreover as the adpter has some weight too.

The only reasons I can imagine is that of
-) substituting the "rare" primary cell by common cells (not applicable)
-) substituting the "expensive" primary cell by "cheap" cells
-) only having one battery to bother with, which is regulary exchanged anyway (the most convincing to me)

The High Power Ni-Cd Pack FN was designed for extreme low temperature environment, when alcaline batteries are not operating; it makes sense to also power the body from the same source otherwise you haven't gained anything, as a dead battery in the body would block it. "The temperature can drop to -20 degree C, yet this power pack will continue to function perfectly. There's no fear of the battery in the camera giving up either: the power pack can power the camera as well, using the Battery Cord FN."
Obviously, there is an interest in using rechargeable batteries if you shoot a lot (e.g. sports), but in that case, you can use a standard battery to power the body and avoid the dummy battery with the finicky cable.
I always wondered why they did not simply power the body through motor-to-body contacts, especially since they already use contacts for the speed priority mode. A simple diode could have disconnected the internal battery when a motor or winder is present. Very strange design decision!