I do not have New F-1, have previous 2 versions and F-1n with L screen is great in every way. What makes SL2 different is not just the brightness but the real estate and I don't need to have my eye stuck to the finder either (not sure what the official eye point is). It's strange how I wound up getting the SL and soon after the SL2, neither ever considered until just days before purchase. But no regrets (and SL2 was not cheap). While I also have an R5 (and probably R6 eventually) and R5 is a fine camera, the SL2 is indeed what people say, with SL close behind.
The L screens hat came with F-1n are I think same as what New F-1 had. As I have the F-1 and F-1n, I see a noticeable difference and am on the market for all L screens as they fit both cameras all the same. Am impressed with F1 quality in every way.I have tested transplanting my standard New F-1 screen into the F-1 (original model, not "n") finder. Yes, it is much brighter. But still, the same New F-1 screen on the New F-1's AE finder gives a larger image, still with excellent eyepoint, and a tad brighter as well (better multicoating on the mirror and optical system, i'd guess). So you need to experience the New F-1 finder!!
If I had the Leicaflex SL2 i'd be worry if it breaks. As as i've read, dissasembling the thing is really really hard, because the camera isn't modular at all, and many technicians are shy of attempting it.
There are a lot of mentions on how the shutter and mirror actions in those are very gentle. Again, i only tested my friends' SL and original Leicaflex and indeed the shutter and mirror action are very gentle (in terms of vibrations), but equally smooth are the ones on my Nikon F3, pentax MX and (wait for it...) Canon A-1!! The F2 also allows to set intermediate shutter speeds. Even the Nikkormat allows intermediate speeds, but only between 1/250 and 1/1000.
Ok, the Leicaflex (1964) and Leicaflex SL and SL2 (1974) came before the mentioned cameras, so they indeed have technical merit.
EDIT: Once you stop down the diaphragm my Canon F-1 (1971) is surprisingly free of vibrations. Perhaps SLR camera vibrations are overrated, once you get to a certain level of quality.
HI Cooltouch, I know this is a very old post, but I'm curious to know exactly which version of the Nikon 35/2 you have.
I have the Nikkor-O 35/2 and definitely would consider superior in every way to the FL 35/2.5 I owned. Lovely rendering.
A 30-year-old plus either Canon F1n or a Canon New F1 is a much better buy if you want a reliable light meter than a Nikon F or a Nikon F2 the metering system is a much more reliable deIgn that has stood the test of time much better, I speak from experience. I have 4 Canon F1s and all the meters are correct and read with a Kodak Grey Card within three-tenths of a stop of each other with a digital spot meter.This is because the Canon F-1 has no resistor rings or resistor strips. The meter rotates instead, according to the selected shutter speed and selected ASA value. This is a more complex way, because it requires a pulley/string system.
The F1N AE is an entire level beyond the F, F2 and F3 cameras
and the lens quality, including plastic, is better than the Nikon lenses, being warmer and more 'pictorial' than the cool/cold Nikon rendering.
Were Canon FD (old) and FL lenses produced to the same mechanical standards as the Nikons of the time? FDn sure feel cheaper (excluding their L range).
Nikkor pre-AI lenses had IMO higher mechanical standards than their contemporary Canon FL lenses.
Thanks, let me paraphrase: Is Canon FD 50mm f/1.4 mechanically as sound as a similar AIS Nikkor. The FDn 50mm f/1.4 I have sure doesn't belong to the same league.
Of some of the very best build lenses. No problem if we don't agree on this. My experience is based on many years of using Nikon mf system, now Leica R. However I'm building a small Canon FD setup and so far I'm not impressed by the FDn build quality in comparison to some of the lenses from the Nikon Ai(s) period (or Leica R). Optically they are excellent, though.Which "league"?
No doubt about it.I used a Canon FDn 50mm f1.4 lens for about thirty years and it was a very fine lens that gave excellent results.
I've had mine for 39 years now and it's still going strong.I used a Canon FDn 50mm f1.4 lens for about thirty years and it was a very fine lens that gave excellent results.
Of some of the very best build lenses. No problem if we don't agree on this. My experience is based on many years of using Nikon mf system, now Leica R. However I'm building a small Canon FD setup and so far I'm not impressed by the FDn build quality in comparison to some of the lenses from the Nikon Ai(s) period (or Leica R). Optically they are excellent, though.
The smoothness of the focusing helicoid on Canon FDn lensed is due to them being coated with Teflon during manufacture.I've had mine for 39 years now and it's still going strong.
No doubt about it.
Nikkor lenses are better. Nikon was established as a total system before F-1 even came along. Lot to be said for being first in the business.
Nikon lenses had a better reputation than Canon among photo dealers and journalists, but I think that was mostly savvy marketing on Nikon's part. In the early 80's, I too drank that Nikkor koolaid, that is, until I starting looking at Modern Photography lens tests. The Canon lenses were superb...generally better that Nikon's.
One of the first brochures for the F-1 system, mentions an independent test carried on Japan on many lenses incluing FD lenses:
The lenses of the F-1 system are the result of the efforts
and cooperation of the departments in charge of design,
research, production, and survey, and the computer
department. High quality and performance were basical-
ly the main goals, and specifically a wide range of
interchangeable lenses, compact and easy to handle, with
image sharpness throughout the whole focusing range.
These lenses were to adopt a newly designed mechanisms
(Floating System), as well as new techniques for
processing and the practical application of the newest
materials. Special lenses were to be developed and
multilayer anti-reflection coating was put to practical
use. Besides, they all had to have a high resolving power
and extremely high contrast.
The challenge that these goals meant was most success-
fully overcome with the series of FD lenses, opening the
way for still newer and better lenses which are under
constant testing, planning and research.
One of Japan's leading camera magazines, the "Camera
Mainichi", in its annual supplement called "White Paper
on Camera Lenses", sets down the general criteria fo r'
judging lens quality. In 1971's "White Paper" out of
375 lenses of the different Japanese makes surveyed,
Canon's got the top marks.
The publishers asked the Department of Applied Physics
of the Faculty of Engineering of the National University
of Chiba to conduct this study, and to examine the
quality and performance of the lenses, classifying them
into 14 categories according to the focal lengths. In this
entirely independent survey, Canon's lenses were first in
8 out of the 13 categories it participated in. (There was
no Canon entry in the 85mm focal length category).
My note: The FD lens 85/1.8 was introduced later in the FD lens line, so this would explain why there was no lens in the 85mm FL category.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?