Canon EOS 620 - New in 2016

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I compeletely missed out on Canon's camera and lens innovations in the mid to late 1980s. I was not involved at all in photography then and I was not until the late 1990s that I re-engaged with photography and then it was with Nikon.

In 2006 I bought a Canon 5D and have more or less stuck with the brand ever since. In the last two years, I have become increasingly involved in 35mm film photography, having kept hold of my Nikon LS-4000 scanner that I bought in 2001.

Although my digital gear is Canon, my film kit is anything but Canon. Contax, Yashica and Pentax mainly. I still have the first 35mm SLR that I bought in January 1979 - a Yashica FX-1 and its immediate successor - a Penax ME.

Recently, out of curiosity; I began to get interested in Canon's EOS film cameras. I was attracted to the idea of matching my 21st century IS L zoom lenses to 20th century film bodies - which have very impressive specifications.

My impression of Canon EOS film SLRs could be summed-up as; Cheap, Plastic, Noisy, Disposable. All of the examples I saw on Ebay were old, worn-out, dirty and shiny. They did not look at all appealing (I recently bought an EOS 30 which was home to lice in the mirror box).

Last week I paid a visit to the web site of the retailer; Ffordes in Scotland. They had a number of old EOS cameras, which they were describing as New Old Stock. I though that this worth a try. So I bought a "New" Canon EOS 620 for £59. This was the second of the new EOS models released in May 1987.

It arrived last Saturday morning. The listing didn't mention a box - but what arrived was straight from a time machine. It was in its box, with all the original packaging, the strap was in its unopened, plastic bag, the camera itself was nicely wrapped in its own bag. Quite literally new and unused and unopened - untouched for the last twenty-nine years. It even smells like new!

Thing is, if it had been worn and old and shiny I would probably have dismissed it. But because it is "new", I feel like investing some effort in discovering what the camera can offer. I've put my 24-70 f/4 IS on it and it works perfectly - a great combo. Sure, it makes a noise that is very much 1980s but it is not obtrusive. The AF, even though there is only one point - is seriously fast - as fast as my 1DS II.

Yes, it feels a bit plasticky compared to my Contax RX and Pentax MX. But then, this is a thirty-year-old camera that perfectly complements my modern Canon lenses. I wonder if Canon imagined that scenario back in 1987?


Here are some pics of the 620

 

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My impression of Canon EOS film SLRs could be summed-up as; Cheap, Plastic, Noisy, Disposable.
You say that like it's a bad thing!
Seriously, it looks like you've made a good find. Taking inflation into account, your 620 cost a fraction of the original price and like you said, it's full of newness! I think you've been unlucky with your searches, there are lots of late model plastic entry level SLRs around in virtually box condition. They were often bought by people who pampered their cameras in padded cases, never took them out in the rain, and rapidly moved on to digital cameras. A couple of years ago eBay was full of nearly new Canon EOS 3000n cameras for £10 or less for some reason.

Given the amount of boxed plastic SLRs in great condition there's no reason to purchase scrofulous examples. These things were made by the million. There are still plenty out there in captivity.
 
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You say that like it's a bad thing!

That's my built-in Nikon/Contax snobbery which is just about wearing off. What really excites me is the notion that I can use a film camera, with my many frozen rolls of Delta 3200, along with my IS lenses, late at night in Soho. Today I hit the buy-it-now button on a MINT Canon EOS 1N RS from Japan for 200 quid. That, plus the 16-35 IS and 24-70 IS? The past and the present nicely wired-up together.
 

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I use a film EOS with the 40mm pancake. A tiny combo, very sharp, works on film, full frame and crop sensor digital cameras. It's permitted to like cameras made by Germans with furrowed brows in white coats, and ones made by robots out of Christmas cracker stuff. The film won't mind, and the photons don't care either.
 
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t's permitted to like cameras made by Germans with furrowed brows in white coats.

I did own and briefly use a Leica M6 ten years ago. I remember walking around Covent Garden happily snapping whilst muttering to myself in heavily accented German. "Ja ve must get zis shot" etc... Then I sold it and went back to the real world.
 

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Your 620 came out in May of '87, and either Pop Photo or Mod Photo had started talking about it the winter of '86. I wanted one, badly. I saved up, and got one within days of release. I don't remember how much it was, but it wasn't cheap. After buying the camera, a lens (35-70A), a flash, and a gadget bag, I had to wait another week to buy film!

I still have my original body, but it hasn't seen the light of day for a few years (about 15). I think I'll dig it out again...

Enjoy it, it is a great camera!
 
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I still have my original body, but it hasn't seen the light of day for a few years (about 15). I think I'll dig it out again...

I still have my very first camera - a Yashica FX-1. But it's completely useless, an ornament. Your 29 year-old 620 can take a 2016 Canon lens and go places!
 

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You should get our hands on a Canon 1V. As good as it gets in the Canon film world.

Welcome to Apug!
 

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Impressive, really impressive!

Unlike my T90 it appears it can stand on its own with a lens. Regarding predicting the scenario, Canon made camera in the 80s that could support lenses from the 50s so I assume they were aware of that....they just changed from FD to EF because they could not build a AF system that could support the old lenses (nobody could do that, even the first Pentax AF was abandoned) and they had to follow the Minolta way.
 

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I'm not really a Canon fan.... more Nikon, or old German camera's. Bit somehow I ended up with 4 Canon EOS bodies (1, 1N, 3, 5) and I'm afraid I have to confess these are the finest cameras I ever had. Every time I try to convince myself that older, less plastic, less electronic cameras are much better, the results prove different. Since in the end of the day I care about results (=photos), not about cameras, I keep coming back to the Canons.
 

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I always liked the 620's 1/250 sec. x-sync and simplicity of operation - no custom functions.

If you find that your EOS 620 eats batteries faster than it should, you may want to check out the following link:

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I bought a used 620 in the early 00s, and found it ran down its 2CR5 battery in less than a month, even though it had been switched off when not in use. A second used 620 I bought had the same problem, and it was a dozen or more years before the info in the linked article came to my attention: in short, a deficient component in the EOS 620, 600/630 and RT models' top deck LCD backlight circuit breaks down over time, and will drain the battery. It's possible your NOS 620 has had the breakdown while sitting on Ffordes' shelf, and likely the store's only response to any inquiry you make should the problem show itself will be a return for refund. The repair tips article includes an illustrated step-by-step procedure for clearing the battery drain by disabling the LCD backlight feature that involves removing the camera's front and bottom panels, and the tripod mount to access a pair of wire connections that you simply snip. I was able to do both my 620 bodies a couple of years ago in about an hour altogether, and found it very easy to get along without the backlight. I eBayed one of the 620 bodies after verifying its battery wasn't being drained, and the one I kept is still on the 2CR5 I put in after disabling the backlight.
 

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Instead of EOS camera and lenses, have you considered a late FD-mount Canon SLR instead? The FD lenses on the used market are relatively inexpensive, plentiful, and built very solid. The FD-mount cameras are also quite robust and hardly feel or look like plastic toys as many of the EOS cameras certainly do.
 

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Way back in 1994, I borrowed a friend's EOS 650 to take on a trip to Taiwan. I already owned a first-generation Rebel (talk about plasticky -- even the lens mount was plastic), and decided I'd rather not take the Rebel, but wanted something more robust. And that's what the 650 was. It had a lot more metal in its makeup than that Rebel did -- that's for sure. So anyway, I shot slides exclusively while I was in Taiwan: Fujichrome 100. And they came out great. Exposure was right on the money with almost every shot. Now, I don't recall specifically what the difference is between the 650 and the 620, but as I dimly recall, the 620 was an improvement over the 650.

Fishing boat on the Tamsui River north of Taipei, EOS 650, Tamron 24-70mm Aspherical, Fujichrome 100:


As for later 35mm EOS cameras, here's a story for you. My mother got an EOS Ellan II for Christmas back in 1998. She never used it. I don't think she put a single roll of film through it. She ended up giving me her EOS outfit, saying she just had no use for it. Well, I already owned an Elan IIe, so I had no use for her II either. So I put it on eBay at open auction with a starting bid of $10. There was so little interest in it, that's what it sold for. This was back in 2009, where interest in film cameras was at its nadir. I was so disappointed that it sold for only $10, but I'm sure the only bidder on it was quite happy. And you know, there's nothing inherently wrong with the camera. I like my IIe -- I don't use the eye controlled focus, but it's always worked very well for me. I added the auxiliary battery pack to it, which gave it some additional heft and more stability, as well as a vertical shutter release. Yeah, it's got more plastic in it than that old 650 did, but it's still a solid camera that takes great pix. Plus, being the Elan, it has the whisper quiet drive.

Fort Bragg, California, Ocean Sunset. EOS Elan IIe, EF 70-210mm f/4, Kodak Gold 200:
 

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Michael, you're the best best photographer of sunsets I've seen on the net!
 

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A brand new Canon EOS 620 for £59. Sounds like a great bargain. I wonder what it cost in 1987 then converted for inflation to the 2016 price? When you have done the conversion and compared prices then that's the kind of a bargain it truly is.

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I have the elan II with recent canon EF lenses and I must admit very silently that using it let me focus on the subject rather than the technical part of taking photos.
So, I probably better say a big no no no, only manual focus lenses. however the truth is that I quite enjoy having one of these plastic things.
 

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Dead Link Removed

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The repair link is to a problem that seem specific to the 630. The "repairer" even mentions that he transferred a battery from a 620 that had been in use for a couple of months. He does not seem to say that the problem afflicts the 620 also.

I accept that in your particular experience it does affect the 620 but I wonder how widespread the battery drain is in the case of the 620.

Can anyone else with a 620 they use or even do not use, as it apparently drains batteries whether used or not, say how long the batteries last?

Thanks

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That's a great find and story to hear. I'n also impressed w/how quickly Canon improved their body lines w/each successive EOS model.
 
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