canon clear transparency film

sanking · May 9, 2007

I printed a few step wedge prints this morning with the Canon TCF. It behaved in the 9180 printer much like the Photo Warehouse OHP in that drying was not fast enough to prevent pizza wheel marks when printining with slow drying colors, like composite black. When printing the same step wedge with the green and red PDN colors I did not see any pizza wheel marks.

On the whole the Canon TCF is much more similar to the Photo Warehouse OHP than to Pictorico.

Sandy

MVNelson · May 9, 2007

Thats interesting, Sandy. I am not sure what Pizza wheel marks are but with I haven't noticed any problems with combined black pigment printing on TCF with my Canon iPF 5000. It must have something to do with how the material is transported through the 9180 printer ??? Appreciate the update.

Miles

sanking · May 9, 2007

Mvnelson said:
Thats interesting, Sandy. I am not sure what Pizza wheel marks are but with I haven't noticed any problems with combined black pigment printing on TCF with my Canon iPF 5000. It must have something to do with how the material is transported through the 9180 printer ??? Appreciate the update.

Miles

Miles,

It could be a transport mechanism. On some printers it is possible to lift the pizza wheels, thus elimnating the problem. I did this on my Epson 2200, though I never saw any pizza wheels.

Or, it could be that the Canon iPF 5000 pigmented ink set is faster drying?

Sandy

Jeremy · May 9, 2007

So I'm thinking then that the photowarehouse OHP would be a good match to the iPF5000?

Miles, if you're interested, I can send you a couple of sheets to test out. I could even send you an image file that you could print out and I could make a direct comparison to the prints I get from my Epson2200 negatives (though I know it won't be perfect due to working conditions, etc, etc, etc); but I think it would at least give an idea.

MVNelson · May 10, 2007

Hey Jeremy,

Thanks. At the moment it seems the Canon TCF is a very nice match for the Canon IPF5000. The rep says it was engineered for to be...curiously though I think the film was around before the iPF...I appreciate your kind offer and would like to get back with you on that in about a month...that'll get me enough time to get thoroughly standardized with TCF from which point I would be able to make reliable comparisons...I am getting kinda curious to see if TCF and photowharehouse ohp are actually from the same source??? Maybe Sandy knows...?

MVNelson · May 10, 2007

sanking said:
Miles,

It could be a transport mechanism. On some printers it is possible to lift the pizza wheels, thus elimnating the problem. I did this on my Epson 2200, though I never saw any pizza wheels.

Or, it could be that the Canon iPF 5000 pigmented ink set is faster drying?

Sandy

Fast drying pigment inkset is one of the advertised charecteristic of LUCIDA pigment inkset...So far I have yet to smuge paper or film..

Miles

Jeremy · May 10, 2007

Mvnelson said:
I appreciate your kind offer and would like to get back with you on that in about a month...that'll get me enough time to get thoroughly standardized with TCF from which point I would be able to make reliable comparisons...I

Sounds good to me.

sanking · May 10, 2007

Mvnelson said:
Thats interesting, Sandy. I am not sure what Pizza wheel marks are but with I haven't noticed any problems with combined black pigment printing on TCF with my Canon iPF 5000. It must have something to do with how the material is transported through the 9180 printer ??? Appreciate the update.

Miles

Miles,

To see what pizza wheel marks look like check out the following image submitted by Loris Medici.

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I think you will spot them right away.

Sandy

MVNelson · May 10, 2007

sanking said:
Miles,

To see what pizza wheel marks look like check out the following image submitted by Loris Medici.

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I think you will spot them right away.

Sandy

I checked that out...fortunately I haven't gotten anything like that...

Miles

rogein · May 10, 2007

Mvnelson said:
I am getting kinda curious to see if TCF and photowharehouse ohp are actually from the same source???

Looking at them my guess is no. The PW film is completely clear - the Canon TCF has tiny 'specks' randomly spaced over the surface (though they don't seem to show through when printing)

rogein · May 10, 2007

Mvnelson said:
I checked that out...fortunately I haven't gotten anything like that...

Miles

I'm getting it with the Epson printer - fortunately adding enough 'delay' between each head pass has cured the problem.

Roger...

rogein · May 10, 2007

I forgot to add - for me the Canon TCF dries faster than the PW film.

Roger...

MVNelson · May 10, 2007

rogein said:
I forgot to add - for me the Canon TCF dries faster than the PW film.

Roger...

glad to hear that you solved the pizza wheel issssue and also thanks for answering te quetion about pwh vs tcf origins. For the most part the didignegs from my IPF wwith tcf are dry from the tme they exit the printer

Miles

atleastwedream · Apr 21, 2008

Mvnelson said:
update...bottom line..I'm very pleased with Canon Transparent Clear Film (TCF)...I had no problems with sticking or measles or anything like that. Curiosusly, I also noticed that newton rings which I see on pictorico ohp while in the vacuum frame (not seen on prints) were not there with Canon TCF ??? That could be due to alot of things (humidity change, temp, etc..). The only adjustment that I had to make was to decrease my UV exposure because the TCF is much more transparent than OHP. The only issue with TCF at this point is that it is not offered in sizes smaller than 13"X19" in boxes of 100 sheets. The next choice I have to make is whether to go with the long rolls or not . I have a good amount of smaller OHP (81/2"X11") so I think I'm in good shape. Oh, and Imeasured the density of pigment lay down on TCF and OHP using the IPF5000 16 bit PS-CS2 driver and the backlit film setting and it does appear that TCF dried quicker but the ink density is a bit greater than the OHP...This will need more investigation and is probably more important for folks using QTR rip with the forced variable ink/pigment outputs...As for me I am very pleased with the ChartThrob curves...far less complicated, easy to tweak, far less testing and uses far less expensive materials...hmmm ... sorta like BTZS....to quote Dennis Miller, "...that's just my opinion...I could be wrong... .

Miles

Hi,
I have a kind of difficult question... How clear is the cannon tcf?
I have been searching for a very transparent type of "paper" in order to print and layer and backlight, and I had bought a digital transparency film (without researching) and it had a very milkyish coating and did not work with what I was trying to accomplish.
I was wondering if the Canon TCF is truly transparent or if it also had a slight milky look to it, and also if you maybe knew of any other brand?
Thanks!
Dara

atleastwedream · Apr 21, 2008

oh yeah, the paper i used before was Inkpress Digital Transparency Film

pschwart · Apr 22, 2008

atleastwedream said:
oh yeah, the paper i used before was Inkpress Digital Transparency Film

Canon TCF is clear -- in appearance it is like a sheet of acetate or mylar, perfectly clear, not milky like Pictorico

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