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C41 Developer Working Solution and Replenisher

Josaw98

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C41 Developer Working Solution and Replenisher - DIY


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Interesting formula, and will most likely try this out at some point. There's one detail, though, which I would like to clarify: Dequest 2010 aka Etidronic Acid is a powerful sequestering agent for all kinds of evil trace metals, PE mentioned this one himself, but it comes with some problems of its own:
if mixed into alkaline environment, it seems to do quite poorly with regular water hardness. It was the first "good sequestering agent" I got my hands on, and I tried to use it to avoid the slight cloudiness of my HCA. It did get rid of the slight cloudiness, but within a few hours I had white fluffy pieces of something floating in my HCA. Something precipitated, and it may be an insoluble compound formed from Calcium and Etidronic Acid.

The one photographic recipe I have seen, which uses Etidronic Acid, used a combination of EDTA and Etidronic Acid. There is also a patent, which recommends lithium salts in developers, and I have indeed seen C-41 CD formulas with Etidronic Acid as sequestrant and large amounts of some lithium salt.
 
Excellent contribution, thank you very much. Yes, it's better to use another type of sequestrant. Etidronic acid is what I had on hand, but I ran out of the other sequestrants, though they're on their way. Regarding lithium salts, I have heard of them. The easiest for me to get is lithium carbonate. If you have the patent number, I would greatly appreciate it if you could share it with me!
 
ATMP, or Na5ATMP, works well for me in both ECN-2 and C-41 developers. HEDP (Dequest 2010) behaves exactly as mentioned, producing fluffy precipitate after just a few hours.
Na7DTPMPA is as good as ATMP, though a bit less well known and harder to obtain, especially in small quantities.
 
Regarding lithium salts, I have heard of them. The easiest for me to get is lithium carbonate. If you have the patent number, I would greatly appreciate it if you could share it with me!

Here's the relevant patent: US3839045