I know that I will regret letting these go but hunger is bad. Both are fine performers with flawless glass and in EX+ cosmetic condition and include both caps. Some slight wear on the blackening of the bayonet lugs on the 85. All controls smooth and functional (focus is a little stiffer on the 25). Discounted for quick sale. $500 shipped CONUS for the Distagon, $300 shipped CONUS for the Sonnar. USPS money order. Buy them both and I'll throw in an ugly fully functional RTS body with eye cup, +3 Nikon diopter shimmed to fit, battery and body cap. I will try to get photos up tomorrow. Thanks.