C-41/E-6 compatibilty of parts

[Mike Lyons]

Hi to all, it would seem that the concensus for C-41 predictability is to use separate bleach and fix as opposed to blix. Great, but since the apparent demise of the smaller volume kits from all sources in Australia, and the difficulty in getting the bleach component, how does the following sound?
Use the Kodak C-41 developer and starter components ( available ), use an E-6 bleach ( possibly needs some other additive to get it going, I'm not sure, but also available ) and then a fix of some sort, possibly a B&W one or similar formula to those published on this forum. Stabilizer is not a problem.
I use a Jobo ATL-1000 with one shot processing, so volumes are fairly small. Any feedback on the dilemma would be appreciated. It seems that the flex-3 developer stuff is no londer available in Australia, so a starter is needed for the developer.
Mike

 

[PHOTOTONE]

I would think that C-41 would be more readily available than E-6 components, as most mini-labs still process C-41, although it may be Fuji chemicals, their process is compatible with C-41...you could use Fuji chems. I am sure there is a distributor for Fuji and probably also Eastman Kodak color chemistry in Australia.

Kodak offers all its chemistry in Australia, and can be ordered from a Kodak dealer:

http://wwwau.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/prodChemicals.jhtml

 

[Photo Engineer]

Here is a list of workable combinations.

E6 fix or C41 fix are interchangable with time adjustments. Reversal film usually needs more time.

E6 bleach is more active than C41 bleach so they can probably be interchanged but in a pinch I would use E6 for both processes.

If you have modern films, then either old or new stabilzer from E6 or C41 could probably be used. Since some ingredients are present in low concentration and are proprietary I cannot tell with the new final rinses how interchangable they are. Since I have a huge backlog of the old stabilzer I'm still using it.

The old stabilzer was fully interchangable.

PE

 

[OldBikerPete]

I would think that C-41 would be more readily available than E-6 components, as most mini-labs still process C-41, although it may be Fuji chemicals, their process is compatible with C-41...you could use Fuji chems. I am sure there is a distributor for Fuji and probably also Eastman Kodak color chemistry in Australia.

Kodak offers all its chemistry in Australia, and can be ordered from a Kodak dealer:

http://wwwau.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/prodChemicals.jhtml

Having been through the search for C-41 chemicals in Australia, I can confirm that kits 5L and below are NOT available from Kodak.

 

[PHOTOTONE]

Having been through the search for C-41 chemicals in Australia, I can confirm that kits 5L and below are NOT available from Kodak.

Well, in general, in concentrate form, the chemistry keeps (even after opened) a very very long time...all components except developer. You could purchase larger, and just dilute what you need over a period of time. The bleach actually needs oxygen (air) to work right.