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Bulk loader - what to look for

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I have decided to get a 35mm bulk loader. I see lots of Watsons, some Prinzes, maybe a few others. Any tips on what to look out for? I'll be sharing some film with Laostyle17 and he has one of those fancy EOS bodies that read the film speed so I suppose I'll have to get certain cartridges, right?
 
You won't need special cartridges. Your friend can set the film speed manualy on The EOS

As to the bulk loader, I have only used the Watson. It did a nice job.
 
You won't need special cartridges. Your friend can set the film speed manualy on The EOS

As to the bulk loader, I have only used the Watson. It did a nice job.

I would recommend referring to your friend's camera's manual. IIRC, some EOS bodies seem to want to remind the photographer more frequently than others that there is no DX information.
 
i have three, one weston and two others that look just like it -- the design works very nicely, just make sure you buy a new-ish one if buying used, make sure no cracks or anything like that.

carts? If you want to use the auto-asa reading function of the ccamera yes you buy carts with that on them, easy to do from Freestyle. If you are into setting the asa manually, get the plain ones. They last a very long time...
 
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there are only two types: the Watson; and the Lloyd. Western and Prinz are Watson type. Both types work just fine ... the Lloyd is slightly more compact.
 
Which one is the 'square' shaped one, and which type is the 'teardrop' shaped sort?

I found a Kaiser new in the box, it's the squarish type.
 
I would not recommend the Lloyd type as they use a felt light trap. Should the felt pick up a bit of grit it will scratch the entire roll being loaded. The other loaders use a feltless light trap. Yes, the Lloyd type are cheaper but it is a foolish economy.
 
I have an alden (bakelite?) one I like. Nice and sturdy and heavy. Tear drop shape. Many recent models use thinner plastics and feel flimsier.
 
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there are only two types: the Watson; and the Lloyd. Western and Prinz are Watson type. Both types work just fine ... the Lloyd is slightly more compact.

freestyle only has a square type now, as i recall -- the watson type is best, just don't forget to open the gate or you end up with some really amazing scratches -- they also will close the gate on Leica casettes ....a plus in my thinking.
 
Another vote for the "Alden". It is the best made of the feltless/teardrop design.

The Lloyd felt light trap will get attacked by moths - that's what happened to mine. Never had any problem with grit in the felt - the bulk-film side of the felt trap isn't open to grit, and bulk film doesn't come with grit of its own (oh, maybe Foma/Efke can manage it).

And a second to the advice to find a NOS or mint-in-the-box loader. There are an awful lot of cracked dropped-on-a-cement-floor loaders for sale on ebay (ask me how I know - buying the cheap ones isn't a good idea).
 
I like Lloyd the best. There is less wasted film due to the shorter film path. Plus, I like the mechanical simplicity of the Lloyd unit. However, with the Lloyd design there is risk of scratches if you get dust on the felt trap.

Next best, in my opinion, is Alden. Other designs also work.

Watson is OK but not as nice as some of the others. I think it is flimsier, and tends to waste more film than the others because the light path is longest. (You can overcome the light path objections by doing most of the operations in the dark.)

The old bakelite unit (Prinz I think) is also OK... maybe a little nicer than Watson because the it seems more sturdy, and I think the light path is a little shorter. Don't quote me on that however.

There is also a square unit with a felt-less light trap. I don't remember the name of it. I have one, but have not used it, so I can't comment on the details.

You can actually do the loading without a bulk loader. A number of people have described how to do it. However, a bulk loader is somewhat of a convenience.

By the way, in my experience the frame counters that are in some loaders are relatively useless. Counting turns works as well, once you get the number of turns calibrated to the number of shots on a roll.
 
I like the type that is sold under the brand names Hansa, Konica and AP. I have four of them and they are easy to use, never had any problems.
 
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