I doubt whether either of these would perform satisfactoraly handheld
What??! I use my pro handheld all the time as do many people. It's great, with or without the grip. I can't recall ever using my pro on a tripod or monopod.
And incidentally I've had no issues shooting the pro or AFD at 1/30 or so. Let's see... (there was a url link here which no longer exists) was at 1/20 in low light with the afd handheld. QUOTE]
It depends what you mean by "slow speeds". I had assumed that "slow" meant 1/8th of a second or slower, possible with a rangefinder, but I wouldn't like to try it on any SLR without a tripod.
I've routinely shot my Mamiya 645 at 1/30 or higher without a tripod with good results. Of course, a tripod is an insurance against camera shake but if you have a choice of either no picture (because you don't have a tripod with you) or the shot without one, I'd definitely not pass up a good photo op. Heck, I've even hand held my RB with the 90mm 3.8 with excellent results. It seems that the heavier camera provides a steadier platform.
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