Bought LOMO Anamorphic 35 nap2 3m 56/2 f:80-110 lens

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Jul 31, 2014

I bought above lens. There are lots of youtube , vimeo videos taken with that lens and it was my last 10 years hero. Finally got it. I think I would be needed an additional lens to attach a film camera but for curiosity how tiny digital cameras uses that lens ? Do I need to find 80-110mm range lens back of the lens. It focuses down to 9 meters , some say anamorphic attachment , some say projector but it cant stop the digital shooters. How do they attach the giant lens in to tiny camera and use it. Big questions for me.

Umut

MDR · Jul 31, 2014

There are special attachments that you can buy to mount such an Anamorphot onto a lens and camera. Also if pro digital video cameras are not small at all. Furthermore if you use a lens with a tripod mount the camera doesn't have to carry the lens + Anamorphot weight. The camera is the tiny thing hanging at the back of the lens. If you want to use the lens for film shooting try to find a Konvas (35mm mp camer) and get some Lomo spherical primes (Oct-18 or Oct-19 depending on the camera vintage turret mount = oct-18) to those you can attach the Anamorphot and if you ever win in the lottery you can shoot a movie. A Kinor CX-16 is another good choice you can shoot 16mm anamorphic is cheaper but there is no real infrastructure for this Format.

It is a anamorphic attachment for projector lenses but also works on shooting lenses it's just not the best choice especially if you consider the fact that you can readily find cheap Lomo Square front anamorphic lenses on the net.
Solaris was shot using these lenses, the new Star Wars (not the current) were shot with the old Hawk lenses that were basically nothing but Lomo Roundfront anamorphics in a new Barrel.

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Jul 31, 2014

Hello MDR,

What is the cheapest digital camera I can use with it without need to invest on spherical lens , if possible ?

Umut

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Jul 31, 2014

Must I buy LOMO spherical lens to use that lens with camera either digital or film ?

ps: I think I must not, reading your post

Or can I use a 110mm pentax k mount zoom at the back of the anamorphot to shoot the scene. How will I attach the zoom to anamorphot to grip.
Is there such long heavy duty grips from soviets very cheap. I looked to bh and 65 dollars ,lens money.

I am still thinking an digital camera with a small zoom lens , 16MP used 30 dollars at KEH .

Does it work ?

Umut

snapguy · Jul 31, 2014

Good

Very good. LOMO photography seems to be about your speed.

ic-racer · Jul 31, 2014

Personally I think you will get better results cropping negatives to make wide aspect ratio prints. With the lens you have, not only will you have to figure how to mount it on a camera, you will also have to figure how to mount it on your enlarger.

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Jul 31, 2014

ic-racer , i will try to follow digital path with that lens if I can. Otherwise , costs are increasing without control. I had never an enlarger also.
I think if MDR connects , We will learn to figure out that lens. Yes mounting these beasts , using them is for movie investments. 40000 dollar lenses bought and sold like a cheese. Come on MDR , Where are you ?

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Jul 31, 2014

I learned few things.

NAP is not taking lens but an anamorphic attachment. There is no rule to use it with specific taking lens , for example LOMO Sphericals.

You can buy a nap 2 adapter , and for one example , adapter screws on taking lens filter thread and other end ends with a tube and 4 screws around it to squeeze the nap 2 anamorphic attachment.

All you have to do is to search for adapters than learn the suitable lenses and select a lens camera combination and use with attachment.

Rafael Pankreatu have a 75 dollar M77 adapter but I saw 40 dollar onme also.

This is very good news , I can either use digital and film.

Umut

MDR · Jul 31, 2014

First snapguy was this answer really necessary LOMO builds superb Optics including Satellite and Motion Picture lenses. Did you like Star Wars Episode 1 or other movies shot with Hawk Anamorphics well they were made by LOMO. The Lomographic Society has nothing to do with LOMO.

Second Ic. Racer has a point if you want the 2.39 aspect Ratio there are easier ways than going anamorphic. But if you want the Special anamorphic look only anamorphic can give it to you. An often forgotten fact of anamorphic lenses is that they are 2 focal length in one lens . David Mullen, ASC on cinematography.com explains it much better than I ever could. http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=4690

Third you basically should be able to use any lens from 80mm (80-110mm) on. Arteguy on YouTube used a Helios-44 on which he mounted the Anamorphot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V00t3n_0DFI

Maybe a machinist can build you a 105mm to whatever Diameter your lens has ring Adapter.
Or build something like this guy http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5062/5606167308_7d5ee1356f_z.jpg

Good luck

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Jul 31, 2014

MDR ! You are excellent.

Short sentence , you can poke every lens to the back of nap 2 and take picture. I have long waiting time , expenses are enough.

IMHO , nap 2 prefers large diameter lenses , these are autofocus lenses generally.

Umut

MDR · Jul 31, 2014

Fast prime lenses work as well and are optically superior, you can also use some pentacon praktisix medium format lenses with Adapter on an exacta or Praktika m42 they also have a large Diameter.

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Jul 31, 2014

Thank you . I will shop for them lot later. I have a K Mount Pentax and 70-210 Zoom lens , Can I use it at 110mm ? Not so large also . May be I can put on the tripod if there is tripod socket and bend , poke the zoom and take the picture. I am thinking to take our lake and field for such a long time.

What happens if I poke a tiny autofocus digital camera ? Or is there extreme cheap used 16 or so MP , big diameter digital SLRs ?

frobozz · Jul 31, 2014

Hey I have the same one! Though yours is wayyyyy newer and cleaner.

Duncan

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Jul 31, 2014

Great !

Do you use it Duncan ? Is there a tripod socket ? Did you try it with various lenses , zooms or digital cameras small diameter ?

Umut

frobozz · Jul 31, 2014

I've not had a chance to really play with it (in the 10 years or so I've had it, yikes!) but it's just like yours - meant to attach on the front of a really big 35mm movie camera lens, so it doesn't have its own tripod socket, and attaching it to a smaller camera's lens is going to be, well, interesting.

I shot two quick test photos with a cheap digital camera (Canon Powershot Pro) back when I got it, just by holding the two up together by hand and shooting... so complete with all sorts of internal reflections with light leaking between the two lenses, and so on

Duncan

The correct orientation:

The incorrect orientation:

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Jul 31, 2014

Wow , it has to be used vertical , I am learning new things every hour. I shocked. Can anyone confirm that and is that a play of digital camera or do these lenses been used vertical ?

frobozz · Jul 31, 2014

Yes, the lens needs to squeeze things horizontally (squeezing a wide aspect ratio image onto a narrower frame of film) so from the front the front anamorphic element would look vertical. Then during projection the lens is also used in that orientation, so that the image is un-squeezed (expanded) from the narrow width of the film, back to the full width of the original scene. However if you are just looking to make weird images on still film, you can use it any way that creates a look you like!

Duncan

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Jul 31, 2014

Thank you very much Duncan .

Dan Fromm · Jul 31, 2014

Mustafa, you're asking in the wrong place. APUG is for questions about film and cameras that use film, not about digicams.

Have you tried DPUG and www.mflenses.com? mflenses.com is full of posts about adapting oddball lenses to digicams and the regulars there know quite a bit about what you want to do.

This discussion brings to mind the old joke about the person who lost a wallet at night and looked for it under a street light. Where did you lose your wallet? I don't know. Near here? No. Then why are you searching here? Because there's light here. Except, of course, that there's no digital light on APUG.

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Aug 1, 2014

One adapter and another two shots with that lens.

Adapter is rafcamera , m77 to nap2 one.

Umut

frobozz · Aug 1, 2014

If you're just going for squishy pictures, you're there. If you truly want the "Panavision look" then the next step in the process is to mount the same adapter (or perhaps a much smaller one with the same squeeze ratio) to the lens on your enlarger, to unsqueeze the picture on the way back out. Or, if you're doing this totally digitally, then some sort of 2:1 unsqueeze filter applied digitally on the image file. Then you'll end up with a widescreen-like aspect ratio to your pictures, taken with a native 3:2 ratio camera.

Duncan

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Aug 1, 2014

Thank you Duncan , enlargers are for good photographers with more money , I have not money for papers , color enlargers and even for good film. I am looking for a dslr or large lens and a film camera. I will learn whichever costs less and follow that route. And I found an clamp cheaper than adapters but could not figure out how to poke the taking lens and carry all things as one piece. Adapters and clamps, most expensive 75 , least expensive is 45 dollars and looking for even cheaper. I have long list to buy , using the lens is the most basic one.

frobozz · Aug 1, 2014

I'm not sure how things are in Turkey but here in the US if I wanted to make an adapter with diameters that large while spending almost no money, I'd start by looking at PVC or ABS plumbing pipes. They come in lots of sizes, they already have adapters to transition between sizes, they just glue together, they are easy to cut with a hacksaw, etc. Still tricky to do the part where the pipe hooks to the Anamorphic adapter or the camera lens, but if you can get close in size, it makes things easier. Maybe duct tape?

Duncan

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Aug 1, 2014

Hello Duncan,

Lets say anamorph back diameter is 5 inches and lens front diameter is 3.

I found two pipes , 5 and 3 inches and cut them and poke the 5 in to nap and screwed from 4 sides and poke the 3 to 5 and screwed again.

I think you describe above.

What is the back diameter of nap and how to take decent pictures , high contrast , very sharp ones with pipes and normal 35mm lenses , lots of folks taking excellent videos but I did not see neither a decent photograph may be heavy post processing of post production hardware ? May be they use a lomo spherical lens , is it a must ?

What do you say ?

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Aug 1, 2014

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Duncan,

Could you please check below list ? Do 35nap fit one of them ?

Our Basic Clamp Kit gives your Anamorphic lenses 3 standard sized (60mm, 58mm & 52mm) filter thread diameters & allows you to lock in a proper horizontal alignment! Mount & properly align a wide variety of lenses to cameras like the Canon 5D, 7D, t2i, 550D, 600D, t3i, 60D, 70D, Nikon D90, D610, D800, GH3, Black Magic Cameras, Red Cameras, Digital Bolex, etc. and 35mm adapters.

- Basic Clamp Kit: For Anamorphic lenses that have back end base smaller than 57mm. Lenses like the Sankor, Singer, Eiki, Kowa 16 series, Kowa 8Z and 16H, certain Bell & Howell attachments, Sun, Proskar, etc. (Pictured in photos 1 - 3)

- XL Clamp Kit: For larger Anamorphic lens attachments with a back end base that larger than 57mm in diameter and smaller than 76mm in diameter. The mounting thread size is a standard 72mm only. To use the XL Clamp on SLR lenses with front thread sizes other than 72mm, you'll need simple step-up or step-down rings found for a few dollars on ebay or in most camera shops. (Pictured in photos 4 - 5)

- Front Filter Clamp: For Aanamorphic lenses with a FRONT diameter smaller than 76mm. It will give compatible Anamorphic lenses a front filter diameter of 72mm for mounting standard size filters, like Polarizing and ND Fader Filters which are a must! (Pictured in photos 6 - 7)

- Basic Clamp Kit (Narrow version): The same as the basic clamp kit with the 60mm base, 52mm and 58mm rings included, but this kit comes with a shallower base for use with Anamorphic lenses that have a narrow back end base. This is good for some of the Bolex-Moller 1.5x lenses, Smaller Delft Anamorphic lenses, etc. (Pictured in photos 8 - 9)

- XL Front Filter Clamp (72mm filter thread size): For Aanamorphic lenses with a FRONT diameter smaller than 94mm. It will give compatible Anamorphic lenses a front filter diameter of 72mm for mounting standard size filters, like Polarizing and ND Fader Filters which are a must! (not yet pictured

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